Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-28 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:36 AM +0100 on 10/28/02, Eugen Leitl wrote: > If my traffic is remixed the signature is not linkable to a point of > origin. The signature emitted is not rich, and can be scrambled in > principle. Yes, but the behavior of the signature, the things it does, is biometric. You can't have pers

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-28 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:38 PM +0100 on 10/27/02, Eugen Leitl wrote: > The only way to defeat advanced biometrics is to not be physically present > or to use anonymized telepresence devices. Oddly enough, your behavior on the net, even the behavior of a given signature in cypherspace, is biometric, as well. Cheers

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > Oddly enough, your behavior on the net, even the behavior of a given > signature in cypherspace, is biometric, as well. If my traffic is remixed the signature is not linkable to a point of origin. The signature emitted is not rich, and can be scramble

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech

2002-10-27 Thread Bill Stewart
[Hmm. lne.com spam-blocked me on the first attempt. Given the identity of the research group, I forgot to add the obvious "The computer says he's a rambling wreck from Georgia Tech." ] At 01:36 AM 10/27/2002 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: >See also: >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,38

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech

2002-10-27 Thread Morlock Elloi
> There are potential medical uses of this sort of technology - > enough computer abusers and other desk-job workers with bad backs > or similar health problems that could benefit from analyzing how they walk, > but obviously Darpa's not going to find that. Perhaps we can get There are expensive,

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Bill Stewart wrote: > Sigh. If people are going to beat up on BrinWorld, at least they > should get it right. Brin's Transparent Society stuff makes two points > - Cameras, networks and similar technology are going to keep getting cheaper, > so you're going to lose

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-27 Thread Bill Stewart
[Sorry about any duplicated - lne.com spam-blocked me the first time.] At 01:34 PM 10/27/2002 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: >Advent of another technology wide deployment of which we must delay as >long as possible. ... >Unfortunately, brinistas welcome this development because they idiotically >assume

FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
nt is basically irreversible. Catch it before it's too late. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:36:42 -0400 From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech See also: htt

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance

2002-10-27 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:34 PM 10/27/02 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > (Try [to] rewire parts of CNS in control of your motorics). Actually, injuring yourself is a good way to do this. You'll screw up the timing differences (albeit not the geometry) royally. We call this a limp. If you're interested in gait percepti

Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-27 Thread Morlock Elloi
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Re: FC: Privacy villain of the week: DARPA's gait surveillance tech (fwd)

2002-10-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: > > No technical solution will work in absence of laws making it legal. > > Sanity villain statement of the month. The only way to defeat advanced biometrics is to not be physically present or to use anonymized telepresence devices. Because the latter i