Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-04 Thread Tyler Durden
nomics of the 'real' left leaves them with a big fat credibility hole right in the center, so no one listens to their politics either. -TD From: Steve Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums Date: Mon, 3 Feb

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-04 Thread Steve Furlong
On Friday 31 January 2003 12:40, Tim May wrote: > On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: (snipped) > I understand your politics is lefty...this has been shining through > for years. > > But your analytical skills are lacking. That's redundant in the modern US. Too bad; th

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-03 Thread Ken Brown
Eugen Leitl wrote: > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > > > I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable > > and pretty reliable in Europe. > > A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work > on the train -- given that here cit

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-03 Thread Ken Brown
Steve Mynott wrote: > In the UK at least railway stations tend to have been built in the ugly > parts of towns for good reason -- simply because land is a lot cheaper in > the low rent parts of town. > > Also railways stations and the associated cheap hotels with a large > transient population te

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-03 Thread Ken Brown
Bill Stewart wrote: > Tim commented about railroad stations being in the ugly parts of town. > That's driven by several things - decay of the inner cities, > as cars and commuter trains have let businesses move out to suburbs, > and also the difference between railroad stations that were > built f

RE: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-02 Thread Steve Mynott
Bill Stewart > Tim commented about railroad stations being in the ugly parts of town. > That's driven by several things - decay of the inner cities, > as cars and commuter trains have let businesses move out to suburbs, > and also the difference between railroad stations that were > built for pass

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-02 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:21 PM 01/31/2003 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable > and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work on the train -- given

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:44:50AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > I don't know if this is your reason for expecting not to fly > commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be > exempted from the national security police state, think again. Right. One Democratic "anti-terror" pr

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-01 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 11:53:47AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Of course. I have no doubt whatsoever that we'll soon see checkpoints at > every entrance and exit to all cities where they search the cars and > passengers. It's only a matter of time. And probably require "visas" to travel > anyw

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-02-01 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:12:16PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:44:50AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > > I don't know if this is your reason for expecting not to fly > > commercially again, but for anyone who thinks trains will somehow be > > exempted from the national s

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: I'd love to see more and better train service in the US. Great way to travel, work, read, watch the scenery. I don't mind at all taking a few days, and, unless it's a real emergency, I'm very sure at this point I'll never f

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:58 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 02:21:20PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too expensive,

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 04:55 AM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Railroads are for hoboes and untermenschen. I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe. Yes, and I spent 7 weeks traveling around Europe with a Eurail Pass. Except

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 02:21:20PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > > > I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable > > and pretty reliable in Europe. > > A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to wor

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tyler Durden
chaos it is now. -TD From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:44:32 -0800 On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:39 PM, Neil Johnson wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:12 am, Declan McCullagh wr

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable > and pretty reliable in Europe. A bit too expensive, especially in Germany. I also like being able to work on the train -- given that here cities are only a few kilotons apart a

Re: Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> Railroads are for hoboes and untermenschen. I don't know how it works in the US, but railroads are both comfortable and pretty reliable in Europe.

Passenger rail is for adventurers and bums

2003-01-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:39 PM, Neil Johnson wrote: On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:12 am, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 07:32:10AM -0800, Marshall Clow wrote: 3) Train - about 17 hours - $130 round trip. Out here in the Midwest, we have people creating "committ