Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-29 Thread Dave Howe
Ian Grigg wrote: It's actually quite an amusing problem. When put in those terms, it might be cheaper and more secure to go find some druggie down back of central station, and pay them a tenner to write out the ransom demand. Or buy a newspaper and start cutting and pasting the letters... or

Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-21 Thread Sunder
Simple way to test. Get two printers of the same make and model. Print identical documents on both printers, scan them, diff the scans. Some will be noise, repeat several times, see which noise repeats and you get closer and closer to the serial #'s.

Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-21 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:23 PM 10/18/2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/technology/3753886.stm It turns out that their techniques aren't all that useful. Changing laser printer cartridges changes the results. You might find that two documents were printed by the same printer, but it doesn't give

Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-21 Thread Jerrold Leichter
| It turns out that their techniques aren't all that useful. | Changing laser printer cartridges changes the results. | You might find that two documents were printed | by the same printer, but it doesn't give you the | options for tracking it down that manual typewriters did. Actually, they say

Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-20 Thread Steve Thompson
I seem to recall hearing a rumour that suggested that for years now, photocopiers have been leaving their serial number on the copies they produce. If true, and I am inclined to believe it, it follows naturally that something similar might happen with laser-printers and ink-jet printers.Ian Grigg

Re: Printers betray document secrets

2004-10-19 Thread Steve Furlong
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 16:14, Ian Grigg wrote: R.A. Hettinga wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/technology/3753886.stm US scientists have discovered that every desktop printer has a signature style that it invisibly leaves on all the documents it produces. I don't think this is new -