Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-30 Thread Julian Assange
This is an old statistical technique. You need to know ahead of time which answer is more likely and have a bias in your randomizer. A classic example: Did you cheat on your wife last year? If you were born between January and September reverse your answer. -- Julian Assange

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-24 Thread Scott A Crosby
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:15:18 -0700, AARG!Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On the contrary, TCPA/Palladium can solve exactly this problem. It allows the marketers to *prove* that they are running a software package that will randomize the data before storing it. And because Palladium

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-22 Thread Greg Vassie
| As a resident of Ontario, Canada, I'm quite surprised to learn that | Ontario has been annexed by the United States. Randomized geography. :) Ontario, California? I could see where people who read the article might assume that, I just happened to know that Dr. Ann Cavoukian is the

RE: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Blanc
Said Greg Vassie: Right now, the rate of falsification on Web surveys is extremely high, says Dr Ann Coavoukian, the commissioner of information and privacy in Ontario, U.S.A. People are lying and vendors don't know what is false [or what is] accurate, so the information is useless. As a

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Ontario, California? You will laugh, but some unattentive air travellers sometimes confuse these two :) Of course, California is another country. :-).

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 09:29 AM, Tim May wrote: Not a new idea. Ted Nelson (IIRC) wrote about using coin flips to randomize AIDS poll questions. (Have you engaged in unprotected sex? Flip a coin and XOR it with your actual answer.) I remember talking to Eric Hughes, Phil

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread AARG! Anonymous
Greg Broiles wrote about randomizing survey answers: That doesn't sound like a solution to me - they haven't provided anything to motivate people to answer honestly, nor do they address the basic problem, which is relying on the good will and good behavior of the marketers - if a website

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 09:29 AM, Tim May wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 02:16 AM, Blanc wrote: Interesting little article from http://pass.maths.org.uk/issue21/news/random_privacy/index.html: Excerpt: How old are you? How much do you earn? Not a new idea. Ted

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:32 PM -0400 on 9/21/02, Adam Shostack wrote: | Ontario, U.S.A. People are lying and vendors don't know what is false [or | what is] accurate, so the information is useless. | | As a resident of Ontario, Canada, I'm quite surprised to learn that | Ontario has been annexed by the

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 10:29:16AM -0700, Tim May wrote: | On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 09:29 AM, Tim May wrote: | | Not a new idea. Ted Nelson (IIRC) wrote about using coin flips to | randomize AIDS poll questions. (Have you engaged in unprotected sex? | Flip a coin and XOR it with

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 11:08:54AM -0400, Greg Vassie wrote: | Interesting little article from | http://pass.maths.org.uk/issue21/news/random_privacy/index.html: | | Excerpt: | Right now, the rate of falsification on Web surveys is extremely high, | says Dr Ann Coavoukian, the commissioner

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim wrote: Not a new idea. Ted Nelson (IIRC) wrote about using coin flips to randomize AIDS poll questions. (Have you engaged in unprotected sex? Flip a coin and XOR it with your actual answer.) I remember talking to Eric Hughes, Phil Salin, and others around 1990-91 about this. [snip]

Re: Random Privacy

2002-09-21 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, Sep 21, 2002 at 01:15:18PM -0700, AARG!Anonymous wrote: | Greg Broiles wrote about randomizing survey answers: | | That doesn't sound like a solution to me - they haven't provided anything | to motivate people to answer honestly, nor do they address the basic | problem, which is