Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Sunder
At which point Tim will countersue with an arguement similar to this: Mega Corporation: Your oxygen is tresspassing on my private property. Any oxygen that does so becomes mine to do with as I please. Further, since you have been unable to keep your pesky Oxygen off my property, I am hereby

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread John Young
Thomas Shaddack wrote: Last time I checked, cryptography (and technologies in general) empowers the Individual against the Bigger Entities - regardless if they are Megacorps or Governments[1]. Hence, anticorporate views have their natural place on this list. [1] As the entanglement between

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 04:15 PM, Anonymous wrote: On Saturday 08 March 2003 01:33 am, Tim May wrote: Silly person, a property does not have rights. Owners have rights. And these apply whether one person, 5 persons, or a group of co-owners own something. Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe, LP 2000

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Steve Furlong
On Sunday 09 March 2003 11:52, Tim May wrote: Neither MegaCorp nor anyone else has property rights to the air. MegaCorp doesn't have property rights to the air, but Amazon was recently granted a patent on A Process for Bringing Oxygen into the Body. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:57:43AM +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: You need to find some Green Party, anti-globalization, lesbo-pagan, registration of crypto mailing list that has your kind on it. Last time I checked, cryptography (and technologies in general) empowers the Individual against

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Shaddack
You need to find some Green Party, anti-globalization, lesbo-pagan, registration of crypto mailing list that has your kind on it. Last time I checked, cryptography (and technologies in general) empowers the Individual against the Bigger Entities - regardless if they are Megacorps or

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Paul H. Merrill
] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 19:27 Subject: Re: Social democrats on our list On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 06:46 PM, John Young wrote: SNIP NRO is a robin's egg blue collection of spanking new buildings, and nowhere in the neighborhood are any antennas and aerials and the usual detritus

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread John Young
We did a drive-by this afternoon of the National Reconnaissance Office HQ in Chantilly, VA, to see what corporations who operate its technology were in the neighborhood. Across the street was Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and a gaggle of same-faced untitled buildings. Down Conference Dr was the FBI's

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 06:46 PM, John Young wrote: We did a drive-by this afternoon of the National Reconnaissance Office HQ in Chantilly, VA, to see what corporations who operate its technology were in the neighborhood. Across the street was Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and a gaggle of

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Anonymous Sender
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: Did I invite the public in when an announcement was made for a meeting at my house last September? There were many people I had never met personally, nor even heard of. Nearly all were well-behaved, but what if someone had not been? Were my property rights

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:58 AM 3/9/03 -0500, Sunder wrote: At which point Tim will countersue with an arguement similar to this: Mega Corporation: Your oxygen is tresspassing on my private property. Any oxygen that does so becomes mine to do with as I please. Further, since you have been unable to keep your

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Anonymous Sender wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Tim May wrote: Did I invite the public in when an announcement was made for a meeting at my house last September? There were many people I had never met personally, nor even heard of. Nearly all were well-behaved,

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 05:04 PM, Paul H. Merrill wrote: It's actually Onizuka Air Force Station. It is contiguous to Moffet. And if one realizes the difference between collection, control, and interpretation, Some of the vile despicable actions become more clear. He said Moffett. I pointed

CodeCon happenings [was: RE: Social democrats on our list]

2003-03-11 Thread Lucky Green
Anon wrote quoting Tim: Does my right to control my own property vanish when I become a shop or restaurant? How about when I get larger? Renowned cypherpunk Dave Del Torto thinks it does. This is the argument that he was using to try to gain admittance to CodeCon this year, after

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Anonymous
On Sunday 09 March 2003 10:52 am, Tim May wrote: Neither MegaCorp nor anyone else has property rights to the air. So rights only apply to land ? What's the frigg'in difference between dirt and air. It's all atoms. Did you specify that you also wanted rights to the air on your property when

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-11 Thread Tom Veil
Anonymous wrote on March 8, 2003 at 01:15:10 +0100: On Saturday 08 March 2003 01:33 am, Tim May wrote: Silly person, a property does not have rights. Owners have rights. And these apply whether one person, 5 persons, or a group of co-owners own something. Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe, LP

Re: Social democrats on our list

2003-03-09 Thread Anonymous
On Saturday 08 March 2003 01:33 am, Tim May wrote: Silly person, a property does not have rights. Owners have rights. And these apply whether one person, 5 persons, or a group of co-owners own something. Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe, LP 2000 Maynard Way New York, NY Mr. May Dewey, Cheatum, and