ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
James A. Donald wrote:
So far the Pentagon has
shattered the enemy while suffering casualties of about a thousand,
which is roughly the same number of casualties as the British empire
suffered doing regime change on the Zulu empire - an empire of a
quarter of a
James A. Donald wrote:
So far the Pentagon has
shattered the enemy while suffering casualties of about a thousand,
which is roughly the same number of casualties as the British empire
suffered doing regime change on the Zulu empire - an empire of a
quarter of a million semi naked savages mostly
At 9:00 PM + 11/10/04, ken wrote:
Be fair. They had a trained and disciplined army. Most of whom
would obey orders to the death. That's worth a hell of a lot in
battle.
Yeah, but the zulus had the wrong end of, well, the stick.
Take a look at, again, Hanson's Carnage and Culture for a nice
From: Peter Gutmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 6, 2004 2:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
The figure that's usually quoted is that 80% of German's military force was
directed against Russia. Of the remaining 20%, a lot had already been engaged
The US made a bundle from WW1 and WW2 warfare, in both
cases being rescued from an economic slump, and some have
argued the US delayed sending troops as long as possible to
extend the demand for supplies, supplies which appeared to
always be insufficient but enough to keep the warring parties
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The Russians (for example) conquered Hitler's capital, Berlin. And I believe
the Russian zone in Germany was larger than any of the others, reflecting the
fact that Stalin bore most of entire burden of defeating Germany,
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
To label any argument that points out the obvious circumstance that
injustice feeds hatred as communist propaganda, is really only
ridiculous, even if it's also dangerously incompetent and as such no
real laughing matter.
Why do you mention Bin Laden anyway? There
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, this may actually be less hard than we thought. Indeed, it's the one
vaguely silver lining in this toxic cloud. Outsourcing to India will
actually add a lot to world stability. Of course, we'll loose a lot of jobs
in the process, but in the
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R.A. Hettinga:
Are you high, junior? Or is it just your politics that sound so...
sophomoric?
Communism, Fuck Yeah!!! States are People Too
Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
(Euripides)
You too. Sad it is.
Howcome
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James A. Donald:
You are quite right, it is unjust that people like Bin Laden are so
immensely rich with oil wealth. To remedy this problem, Bush
should confiscate the Middle Eastern oil reserves.
You are using stale old communist rhetoric -
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When it came to the part of the war that was purely a public good,
conquering the German and Japanese homelands, America did indeed bear
almost the whole burden, but when it came to defending Australia
against the Japanese, the Australians bore the
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But it is hardly a matter of holding out. So far the Pentagon has
shattered the enemy while suffering casualties of about a thousand,
We're talking about different things, the War on Bogeymen vs. the War for Oil.
In its war on bogeymen, the most notable
At 6:29 PM +1300 11/3/04, Peter Gutmann wrote:
Do you seriously think the war on bogey^H^H^Hterrorism can ever be won?
You're gonna love this one: You can't have terrorism without state sponsors.
We take out (by whatever means at hand...) state sponsors of terrorism,
and, hey, presto, no
R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Germany 1944 does not equal USA 2004, no matter how hard you twist the
kaleidoscope.
Fighting an unwinnable war always seems to produce the same type of rhetoric,
whether it's the war on some drugs, the war on anyone Bush doesn't like, or
the war on
The US has not won since WW2. Rebellions, now called
terrorist wars, have been far more successful. If you want
to be a winner do not enlist in military forces of states, rather
get a spin contract far from danger, arguing the virtues of
mightily fearsome hardware and sacrificial patriotism.
The
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At 7:33 AM -0800 11/3/04, John Young wrote:
The US has not won since WW2.
Nope. Not at all.
1. Korea we lost by shoving the commies all the way up to the Yalu
river. And then leaving them to fester behind a still-extant DMZ
until they're almost
At 5:21 PM +1300 11/3/04, Peter Gutmann wrote:
another super-power in the
mid 1940s about winning an unwinnable war because God/righteousness/whatever
was on their side
Relativism does not a fact make, Peter.
Germany 1944 does not equal USA 2004, no matter how hard you twist the
kaleidoscope.
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R.A. Hettinga:
You're gonna love this one: You can't have terrorism without
state sponsors.
Nonsense! Are you in junior high?
We take out (by whatever means at hand...) state sponsors of
terrorism, and, hey, presto, no terrorism. Iraq.
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 2, 2004 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
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Expect more carnage than culture when Bush is elected.
I gather we waited to start the offensive in Fallujah(sp?) until the polls were all
closed. I'm not sure how much
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At 12:50 PM +0100 11/3/04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Nonsense! Are you in junior high?
Are you high, junior? Or is it just your politics that sound so...
sophomoric?
:-)
This post gave me a big laugh. So naive. There are a few basic
forces feeding
ObPedantry:
At 9:49 AM -0500 11/3/04, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
If you'd learned any history, you'd know that the first argument is
x second
the result of the complete failure of the *premises* of the first to
happen at all
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Peter Gutmann wrote:
Well it wasn't the point I was trying to make, which was comparing
it to predictions made by (the propaganda division of) another
super-power in the mid 1940s about winning an unwinnable war because
God/righteousness/whatever was on their side, and all they had to do
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Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
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At 7:33 AM -0800 11/3/04, John Young wrote:
The US has not won since WW2.
Nope. Not at all.
1. Korea we lost by shoving the commies all the way up to the Yalu
river. And then leaving
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Peter Gutmann wrote:
Fighting an unwinnable war always seems to produce the same type of
rhetoric,
It is a little premature to call this war unwinnable. The kill ratio
so far is comparable with Britain's zulu war.
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James A. Donald
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This post gave me a big laugh. So naive. There are a few basic
forces feeding extremism and terrorism around the world and those
are inequalities and injustice anywhere.
You are quite right, it is unjust that people like Bin Laden are so
immensely rich with oil wealth. To remedy this
Bob,
But your defenses of the fatherland are hollow formulas.
There has been no war to win, a war the US is forever
stealing from the citizenry to prepare for, and then fucking
up with the minor skirmishes by having no doctrine or
training to apply its mythical might, except, as always,
to
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R.A. Hettinga wrote:
Seriously, any future crypto-anarchy / anarcho-capitalist society is
probably not going to succeed unless it can project *more* force
than we can project currently with force monopoly -- not less. That
*doesn't* mean centralized, but it certainly means *more*.
It is
At 11:11 AM -0800 11/3/04, James A. Donald wrote:
Dhimmitude being
a dangerously inferior status where one's property is insecure, and
women are apt to be raped.
ObSmartAssComment: That's why they call it Dhimmicracy, much less the
Dhimmicratic Party...
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
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At 11:11 AM -0800 11/3/04, James A. Donald wrote:
It is often argued that since war, violence, etc, are public goods
This is my favorite retort to that:
Externalities are the last refuge of the derigistes. -- Friedrich Hayek
An otherwise excellent rant elided...
Cheers,
RAH
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From: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 3, 2004 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
..
The only way to move towards a more friendly world is to make
people feel they are able to share the wealth and prosperity of the
world. As long as there is one single
.
-TD
From: John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:13:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 3, 2004 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
At 3:32 AM +1300 11/3/04, Peter Gutmann wrote:
Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:41AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109936293065461940,00.html
No cypherpunks content. Just local politics.
And it's not even original, they've
Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:41AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109936293065461940,00.html
No cypherpunks content. Just local politics.
And it's not even original, they've mostly just translated it into English,
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:41AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109936293065461940,00.html
No cypherpunks content. Just local politics.
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Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a
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http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109936293065461940,00.html
The Wall Street Journal
November 2, 2004
COMMENTARY
This Memorable Day
By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
November 2, 2004; Page A22
In singular moments in our history, the security of the United States
hinged on a single
At 10:31 AM -0500 11/2/04, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
The Persian deaths numbered in the hundreds
of thousands. The Greeks died in the low hundreds.
More recently, and closer to Hanson's point in the article, both of
Lincoln's elections were very close. But, after Lincoln's second
inauguration, Grant
And an admirable role model for the Simian's memory:
An avenging rebel terrorist shot Abe, not Grant, who
suicided himself with whiskey and self-pity, after lollygagging
in the animal-beshat White House, lost that, took up liquor,
became a helpless drunk, friends caretook his inept pickled
At 11:58 AM -0800 11/2/04, John Young wrote:
Grant, who
suicided himself with whiskey and self-pity,
Actually, he suicided himself with cigars, having died of throat cancer...
;-)
Seriously, any future crypto-anarchy / anarcho-capitalist society is
probably not going to succeed unless it can
R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 3:32 AM +1300 11/3/04, Peter Gutmann wrote:
Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:16:41AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article_print/0,,SB109936293065461940,00.html
No cypherpunks content. Just local
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