Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:34 PM 7/16/04 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted a few months back offering an alternative to religion in recruitment: the terminally ill. That's not good for this purpose; their lifetime is too short. Do you have evidence to support this (e.g., average survivial times of the TI

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-16 Thread Nostra2004
Actually, frequent prosecutions could work to the advantage of a select few who choose to become martyrs. Since it would make it much more likely supplicants would be called upon. Please explain this thought? If people are intentionally trying to set up the jackbooted thugs to break

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:28 AM 7/13/04 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most weapons of the world, but not Bumazhkas. What calibre are they? I've always liked those CZ Model 52 pistols and Model 32 subguns in .30Mauser. Loaded hot with a teflon coated bullet they should

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 07:03:14PM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: That's a matter of course. At the moment the Men with Bumazhkas come, it's too late to act. Bumazhkas? I thought I was pretty familiar with most weapons of the world, but not Bumazhkas. What calibre are they? I've always

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-12 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But we have a psychological mechanism here; many people tend to be tough when not under direct threat. Then they implement the mechanism. Then years flow by. Then the prosecutors come. But by then it is too late to cooperate. They are doomed

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Nostra2004
At 05:22 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: Some months back I discussed a procedural methodology where patrons could find out if their records hand been accessed in a way that circumvented court orders. I was told that it might work but that

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron to pay cash. In California book sellers to such used/remaindered

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-11 Thread Sunder
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Is it possible to write a database access protocol, that would in some mathematically bulletproof way ensure that the fact a database record is accessed is made known to at least n people? A way that would

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-11 Thread Bill Stewart
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Is it possible to write a database access protocol, that would in some mathematically bulletproof way ensure that the fact a database record is accessed is made known to at least n people? A way that would ensure that either nobody can see the data, or

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt

2004-07-11 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: This may best be accomplished by placing the data offshore and empowering the db operators with some non-repudiatable right of disclosure (especially under duress of a warrant). This may be impractical in some cases. Some months back I discussed a

USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
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Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron to pay cash. In California book sellers to such used/remaindered stores must identify themselves

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread Steve Schear
PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 9 Jul 2004 13:26:01 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt User-Agent: SlashdotNewsScooper/0.0.3 Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/09/1145225 Posted by: michael, on 2004-07-09 12:49:00 Topic: us, 90

Re: USA PATRIOT Act Survives Amendment Attempt (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2004-07-09 Thread alan
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, Steve Schear wrote: Quite a few book stores (including the local Half-Priced Books) now keep no records not required and some do not even automate and encourage their patron to pay cash. In California book sellers to such