Re: geographically removed? eHalal

2004-12-01 Thread Steve Furlong
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 21:36, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Halal was deemed a terrorist weapon, and contrary to the treasury's policies, game over. Hawala

Re: geographically removed? eHalal

2004-12-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:33 PM 11/28/04 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: I see that an irrevocable payment system, used by itself, is ripe for fraud, more so if it's anonymous. But why wouldn't a mature system make use of trusted intermediaries? The vendors register with the intermedi- ary *, who takes some pains to

Re: geographically removed?

2004-12-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:44 PM 11/28/04 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 27 Nov 2004 at 6:43, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Internal resistance mediated by cypherpunkly tech can always be defeated by cranking up the police state a notch. You assume the police state is competent, technically skilled,

Re: geographically removed? eHalal

2004-12-01 Thread Tyler Durden
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: geographically removed? eHalal Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:36:39 -0800 At 10:33 PM 11/28/04 -0500, Steve Furlong wrote: I see that an irrevocable payment system, used by itself, is ripe for fraud, more so if it's anonymous. But why wouldn't a mature system make use of trusted

Re: geographically removed?

2004-12-01 Thread James A. Donald
-- Major Variola: Internal resistance mediated by cypherpunkly tech can always be defeated by cranking up the police state a notch. This is eg why e-cash systems have anonymity problems. James A. Donald: The problem is that any genuinely irrevocable payment system gets

geographically removed?

2004-11-29 Thread Major Variola (ret)
to post on the subject was to illustrate that, as long as Group-of-Bandits X continues to utilize our tax dollars to fuck over geographically removed Group of Bandits Y (and their citizenry), Internal resistance mediated by cypherpunkly tech can always be defeated by cranking up the police state

Re: geographically removed?

2004-11-29 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 27 Nov 2004 at 6:43, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Internal resistance mediated by cypherpunkly tech can always be defeated by cranking up the police state a notch. You assume the police state is competent, technically skilled, determined, disciplined, and united. Observed police states

RE: geographically removed?

2004-11-29 Thread Tyler Durden
indicating that geographically removed is less important, and the only incident that Joe Voter is likely to remember. Until the next one, of course; Joe's buffer is not terribly capacious. Well, perhaps. Then again, consider though primordial blacknet systems currently labeled P2P. They don't

Re: geographically removed?

2004-11-29 Thread Steve Furlong
On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 21:44, James A. Donald wrote: -- On 27 Nov 2004 at 6:43, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Internal resistance mediated by cypherpunkly tech can always be defeated by cranking up the police state a notch. You assume the police state is competent, technically skilled,

Re: geographically removed?

2004-11-29 Thread Tyler Durden
Steve Furlong wrote... I see that an irrevocable payment system, used by itself, is ripe for fraud, more so if it's anonymous. But why wouldn't a mature system make use of trusted intermediaries? The vendors register with the intermedi- ary *, who takes some pains to verify their identity,