Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread Morlock Elloi
- queueing the track for download via kazaa Napster clones, kazaa, gnutella et al. rely on end-users to upload stuff. These end users simply have no bandwidth available for that. Cheapo DSL lines have hundred or few hundreds of kbit/sec unguaranteed upload capacity. No one is going to pay T1 to

Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread Adam Shostack
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 02:37:32AM +0100, Adam Back wrote: | Seems to me this would pass current IP laws because it is like a radio | station which broadcast the name of a song and the user is expected to | insert the CD in his player and play along to keep up with the | commentary, only

Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 24 Oct 2002 at 20:32, Morlock Elloi wrote: Napster clones, kazaa, gnutella et al. rely on end-users to upload stuff. These end users simply have no bandwidth available for that. Cheapo DSL lines have hundred or few hundreds of kbit/sec unguaranteed upload capacity. No one is

Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
t 11:21 PM 10/24/02 -0700, James A. Donald wrote: I am a really big fan of Buffy. Seek professional help. but my experience with downloading TV shows suggests that piracy is working better than ever. This wasn't piracy, it was time-shifting. You, as an American with a TV, could watch the

Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread Steve Schear
At 11:21 PM 10/24/2002 -0700, James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- On 24 Oct 2002 at 20:32, Morlock Elloi wrote: Napster clones, kazaa, gnutella et al. rely on end-users to upload stuff. These end users simply have no bandwidth available for that. Cheapo DSL lines have hundred or

Re: internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: my experience with downloading TV shows suggests that piracy is working better than ever. Major Variola This wasn't piracy, it was time-shifting. When the ads were deleted, it ceased to be time shifting. In any case, the point I intended to make was that Buffy was

internet radio - broadcast without incurring royalty fees

2002-10-24 Thread Adam Back
Re. the recent rapacious broadcast royalties imposed on internet radio in the US, it occurs to me it wouldn't be that hard to do the following and it would probably avoid the royalties even under the current imbalanced IP laws: - have the station broadcast it's own content (commentary) - have the