Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-20 Thread Dave Howe
Gil Hamilton wrote: I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller had had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is, can she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class that an ordinary person could not defy? Why not?

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-20 Thread Gil Hamilton
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil Hamilton wrote: I've never heard it disclosed how the prosecutor discovered that Miller had had such a conversation but it isn't relevant anyway. The question is, can she defy a subpoena based on membership in the privileged Reporter class that an

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread cyphrpunk
On 10/19/05, Daniel A. Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf Note that nowhere in my paper did I imply that the issuer is a bank (the only mentioning of a bank in the paper is in an analogy). This is because I am strongly convinced that banks

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread Ian G
cyphrpunk wrote: If this is the model, my concern is that in practice it will often be the case that there will be few intermediate exchanges. Particularly in the early stages of the system, there won't be that much to buy. Someone may accept epoints for payment but the first thing he will do is

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread Daniel A. Nagy
I will provide a detailed answer a bit later, but the short answer is that anonymity and untraceability are not major selling points, as experience shows. After all, ATMs could easily record and match to the user the serial numbers of each banknote they hand out, yet, there seems to be no

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-20 Thread cyphrpunk
On 10/18/05, Major Variola (ret.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this dupe/spy/wannabe journalist thinks that journalists should be *special*.. how nice. Where in the 1st amendment is the class journalists mentioned? She needs a WMD enema. We put up with this needs killing crap from Tim May

Re: Judy Miller needing killing

2005-10-20 Thread Riad S. Wahby
cyphrpunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The notion that someone who is willing to spend months in jail just to keep a promise of silence needs killing is beyond bizarre and is downright evil. Straw man alert. MV's notion is that a person who thinks journalists should be a special class of people

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread cyphrpunk
Let's take a look at Daniel Nagy's list of desirable features for an ecash system and see how simple, on-line Chaum ecash fares. http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/ICETE2005.pdf One of the reasons, in the author s opinion, is that payment systems based on similar schemes lack some key

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread Daniel A. Nagy
Thank you for the detailed critique! I think, we're not talking about the same Chaumian cash. The referred 1988 paper proposes an off-line system, where double spending compromises anonymity and results in transaction reversal. I agree with you that it was a mistake on my part to deny its

Re: [fc-discuss] Financial Cryptography Update: On Digital Cash-like Payment Systems

2005-10-20 Thread David Alexander Molnar
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, cyphrpunk wrote: system without excessive complications. Only the fifth point, the ability for outsiders to monitor the amount of cash in circulation, is not satisfied. But even then, the ecash mint software, and procedures and controls followed by the issuer, could be