Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread Chris Palmer
James A. Donald writes: Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably Symbian. What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined and achieved? -- http://www.eff.org/about/staff/#chris_palmer signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread Peter Gutmann
Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James A. Donald writes: Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably Symbian. What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined and achieved? By executive fiat. Peter.

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-11-01 Thread James A. Donald
James A. Donald writes: Further, genuinely secure systems are now becoming available, notably Symbian. Chris Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does it mean for Symbian to be genuinely secure? How was this determined and achieved? There is no official definition of genuinely secure, and it is

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-31 Thread johns
hi ( 05.10.26 09:17 -0700 ) James A. Donald: While many people are rightly concerned that DRM will ultimately mean that the big corporation, and thus the state, has root access to their computers and the owner does not, it also means that trojans, viruses, and malware does not. do you

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-31 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 10:22 AM -0500 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and doesn't history show that big corporations are only interested in revenue One should hope so. ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-26 Thread John Kelsey
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 25, 2005 8:34 AM To: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand .. That is to say, your analysis conflicts with the whole trend towards T-0 trading, execution, clearing and

Re: On the orthogonality of anonymity to current market demand

2005-10-26 Thread James A. Donald
-- John Kelsey What's with the heat-death nonsense? Physical bearer instruments imply stout locks and vaults and alarm systems and armed guards and all the rest, all the way down to infrastructure like police forces and armies (private or public) to avoid having the biggest gang end up