have a job, given all that's going on in
this industry.
Perry
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, but
they're going broke *now*.
-David
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
drug a year
earlier, you get all the benefit (maybe you get to go on living); the FDA
gets the added risk of their being some horrible side effect. So they
force a different trade-off on you than you'd prefer.)
--Tim May
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as low-tech cruise missiles seems like a
win. Maybe it would make sense to add some kind of remote surveilance of
the cockpit, though I imagine this wouldn't be too popular with pilots, and
they'd definitely need to secure the channel properly.
--Tim May
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED
with?)
...
Adam
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for your top 16 suspects today, you'll be able to do it for
your top thousand suspects in less than ten years, just assuming processing
and storage gets cheaper at current rates
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
developer
people.debian.org/~mbc | encrypted email preferred
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, but I'm afraid you're just not
being effective enough at rooting out Al Qaida operatives. I'm sure you
can do better, though--just find me five operatives in the next week
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 10:40 PM 1/13/03 -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:23 PM, John Kelsey wrote:
...
Personally, I was shocked, *shocked*, to see the supreme court make a
decision on the basis of politics instead of a careful reading of the
constitution.
Everything the Supreme Court
-of balances out. :)
Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Canada), and free trade with almost everyone (I'd like to see us
not trade with countries with really bad human rights records, though
that's not exactly the direction we're heading in now).
...
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
day, number of invalid password guesses before the thing just zeros out
the key and tells the person making the attempt it has done so, etc. Trust
me, you *want* the server to loudly announce that it will zero the key
irretrievably after the tenth bad password
Cheers,
Ben.
--John Kelsey
.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that the police, prosecutors, judges, and
juries just aren't all that careful about checking the plausibility of
evidence anyway.
...
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to be dangerous,
but moving them is going to mess up the investigation of the crash. Which
presumably is what everyone with any technical background and common sense
was thinking when they heard the original warning, right?
--Tim May, Occupied America
John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
if some of those
people assume they're sick because of the dangerous space chemicals, rather
than because of that potato salad they had at the picnic last Sunday.
...
Jay
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
we're all worried about are mostly 1940s or earlier technology. Stuff that
even a third-rate starving dictatorship can cook up.)
-pete
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. The saber-rattling serves both to communicate the threat
and to advertise for buyers.
James A. Donald
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saddles strategy.
-TD
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
money in than an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. Lots
of money invested up front, literally hundreds of small groups who could
threaten to damage it as a way of demanding a share of the loot, very hard
to defend, etc. What an opportunity!
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
farm subsidies, say. And even with Republicans in
control of everything, I'll bet we don't see any major cuts to NEA, say.
-TD
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
larger projects possible sometimes, especially ones
involving big, long wars.
--
Vincent Penquerc'h
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
May
That government is best which governs not at all. --Henry David Thoreau
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yourself to blame if you get
bitten.
So, I don't suppose you've heard about our more recent forays into the
Balkans, Somalia, and Afghanistan
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for
him by some New York Times columnist. (That's from memory, so I'm
probably missing some essential facts...but then, the NYT does that
occasionally, too.)
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
seem likely to help us fight
our fights or accomplish our objectives. Surely it's not too hard to think
of current examples
--digsig
James A. Donald
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Protocol.)
There are pretty obvious reasons why the US government might not announce
either of the last two cases, and why the terrorist group of your choice
wouldn't announce we have a bomb until they had the thing planted where
they wanted it.
--Lucky
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
captured soldiers.
Regards Sarath.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
. What was that famous quote from Austria-Hungary? Something like
We will astonish the world with our ingratitude.
...
Sarath.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 09:36 AM 3/27/03 -0800, Tim May wrote:
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 08:41 AM, John Kelsey wrote:
...
However, it seems to me it would be very hard for this news not to leak
out. If, say, a nuke or serious bioterror weapon had been found in a major
city, a lot of agencies would have had
communication channels.
Yep. Mostly unused because they're not all that reliable, or because they
offer too little bandwidth to be worthwhile, alas.
...
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to random civilians in peacetime.)
Peter.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, and if you don't
have to comply with insanely expensive and complex regulations.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to do 2^{75}, say, to break it. Merkle's
puzzles and all the related schemes give you N^2, and that's not *quite*
enough to be useful.
..
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
over time.
--Tim May
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
site and the entry anonymizer, he can pretty
reliably unmask the user's identity with just a few minutes of
browsing. Wei Dai discussed this idea several years ago, and I later
reinvented the same idea.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
with information leakage about number of channels
here, if you had a message encoded in that block of bits, because you would
know when you decoded it how often you'd had bits flipped, but maybe they
resolved that somehow.)
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948
Rajiv Ghandi's assassin was
such a woman.
So there, the women are still healthy enough to do something, and doing the
suicide bombing thing won't leave behind a legacy of relatives who change
their names to avoid being associated with you.
Peter Trei
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237
he can see a
couple of innocent-looking e-mails from me to you with weird timestamps,
and have some reason to suspect something interesting is going on.
..
-TD
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
.
Of course, there's a more fundamental problem with surrendering to the lone
warriors. Imagine that there's such a wave of pro-life terrorism that we
finally agree to ban abortion. You're a fanatically committed pro-choice
activist. What's your next move?
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48
, even if I tried changing terms, being
more mathematical and less conversational, etc. (Though this is more of a
problem with humans familiar with my writing style, rather than with
automated analysis.)
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP
At 12:34 PM 12/14/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 11:52 AM 12/13/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
..
One interesting property of the lone warriors is that they can't
actually make peace.
Good points, but not entirely true. For instance, we could stop the
Jihad (tm) (including future Jihads
years), but he hasn't actually controlled things for a couple
of decades. The Saddam we're really looking for is approximately Saddam
#3, and he's still at large, and directing the insurgency.
_The Boys from Baghdad_, coming soon to a theater near you.
-TD
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP
the same
kind of language for interactions between individuals and between
governments is a mistake.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
At 10:18 AM 12/31/03 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote:
It's
not that just some humans are useless eaters, it's that all are, and the
Goddess Gaia is clearly hard at work trying to rectify this situation with a
variety of new bioweapons, i.e., AIDS, ebola, etc. which will soon, I'm sure,
reduce the human
community's priors (in the Bayesian sense; their prior assumptions are
swamping the effects of their meager data).
..
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
to try
to force AOL to put up some condom ads, though I can't see how they'd win
in court. Just really stupid policy.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
attackers will do this other
thing (that we just happen to have defended against) instead.
Cheers,
RAH
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
my phone calls and e-mails to her not to be
trivially tapable!
[1] Classical reference
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
leave it unchanged.
Peter Trei
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED], who is definitely speaking only for
himself.
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 23, 2004 10:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push
..
Well, what if there were 3 passwords:
1) One for Fake data, for amatuers (very few of the MwG will actually
be smart enough to look
in that
regard than fraud or theft. I think that's generally true. In some
states, much younger people have been sentenced to death.
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
be a matter of transmitting to the van parked outside your house
~~brian
--John Kelsey, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: FA48 3237 9AD5 30AC EEDD BBC8 2A80 6948 4CAA F259
I think the notion of someone using your IR beaming capacity against your will is at
least a possible threat (imagine what happens if I get a trojan onto your Palm that's
supposed to leak data--it could just listen on the IR port, and hand over your data
when I get it the right message.) Some
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--John Kelsey
-Original Message-
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 30, 2004 10:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
The profitably part is a non-issue when you have black budgets,
at your data. And if that device is an online
server somewhere, then password encryptions become partly traceable.
--John Kelsey
than by death, if then. Who wants to be the guy who
correctly assessent the evidence to remove someone's name, only to have the same guy
blow up a plane a year later? IMO, this seems like a fundamental problem with
watchlists.
Peter
--John Kelsey
iteration count for password hashing.
Hal Finney
--John Kelsey
.
Fortunately, all this is happening in a town noted for its trustworthy and honest
government, and under a mayor with no tendency to use any excuse he can find to grab
power, tear up airports he doesn't like in the middle of the night, etc.
..
R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--John
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 17, 2004 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: potential new IETF WG on anonymous IPSec
At 06:20 AM 9/17/04 +, Justin wrote:
On 2004-09-16T20:11:56-0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
..
Oh, come on. Nothing can be
From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 20, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: Academics locked out by tight visa controls
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/9710963.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
Posted on Mon, Sep. 20, 2004
Academics locked out by tight visa controls
U.S.
From: Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 9, 2004 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Implant replaces ID cards for access to restricted areas.
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 02:20, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Mexican Attorney General, Staff Get Chip Implants
Implant replaces ID cards for access
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 12, 2004 1:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cash, Credit -- or Prints?
..
Very interesting question. I'd bet almost any amount of money that it's
fairly trivial to simply alligator-clip-out the fingerprint's file from
fundamentalist terrorists running about. So we can clearly rest easy.
It's a good thing we've got an administration in the White House who cares about
security and the war on terror. Otherwise, I'd be a mite worried about now
..
-TD
--John Kelsey
). They just have more
power, and fewer consequences when they screw up.
..
-TD
--John Kelsey
to court
scrutiny, but then how do they get that down to the people doing the screening at the
gate?
The whole idea of laws that the citizens aren't allowed to see just sounds like
something you'd expect in some godawful third-world dictatorship, not in the US.
-TD
--John Kelsey
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 16, 2004 7:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Airport insanity
..
On 15 Oct 2004 at 16:32, Tyler Durden wrote:
..
He might have looked odd from the photo you saw circulated in
the press, but I'd bet a lot of money no one would have
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 16, 2004 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Airport insanity
..
Oh, and every white American (recall numerous references to
Mr. McVeigh)
Mc Veigh did not target innocents, and if he did target a plane
full of
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 16, 2004 2:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Airport insanity
For whatever reason, pictures of me always come out looking
like some crazed religious fanatic. But that doesn't mean
that I'm going to bomb anything. And I sure hope that
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 19, 2004 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
..
In developing markets the US track record is terrible. The more we interfere
and set up puppet governments and petty
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 20, 2004 3:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Airport insanity
Lots of murderous terrorists have been released from Guatanamo,
and in the nearly all cases the most serious of their
complaints make it sound like a beach
decision I can figure out. Just like flying planes into buildings
full of people with almost nothing to do with what you're really getting at.
James A. Donald
--John Kelsey
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 23, 2004 7:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Airport insanity
Let us not forget the more tangible 'value' in bombing the WTC and messing
up things downtown. First of all, the companies in the WTC were,
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 25, 2004 9:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Donald's Job Description
Well, the Bush supporters I've met aren't normally so sure. They'll kind
of hem and haw, or saw Well, he's got advisors..., or
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 27, 2004 9:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
..
This is actually the running fantasy in Marxism since the 1950's, when it
turned out that that, instead of the workers eating the
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 29, 2004 7:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire
..
It has always amused me that libertarians and anarcho-capitalists insist on
using the language of the left to describe the things they don't like. One
of the
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 2, 2004 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
..
Expect more carnage than culture when Bush is elected.
I gather we waited to start the offensive in Fallujah(sp?) until the polls were all
closed. I'm not sure how much of
From: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 3, 2004 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
..
The only way to move towards a more friendly world is to make
people feel they are able to share the wealth and prosperity of the
world. As long as there is one single
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 6, 2004 5:07 PM
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The Values-Vote Myth
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
..
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the
From: Peter Gutmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 6, 2004 2:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: This Memorable Day
The figure that's usually quoted is that 80% of German's military force was
directed against Russia. Of the remaining 20%, a lot had already been engaged
by
From: Eric Cordian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 6, 2004 5:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Values-Vote Myth
..
Also, voting is in some sense political manipulation to blame the population
for the
actions of their government. Everyone who votes is a co-conspirator, and the
argument
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 21, 2004 9:23 PM
To: John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report
..
By the way, John, did you know that Bush Is Going To Revive The Draft???
I know this is currently known to be false by all
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 24, 2004 1:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report
..
And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is?
At least three:
a. The pottery barn theory of foreign affairs--we'd be blamed for making
things worse. (I
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 4, 2004 8:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Word Of the Subgenius...
I thought JR Bob Dobbs got beamed up to that comet with those LA Koolaid
kooks...
No, but I do believe the comet kooks engaged in bobbitization (or perhaps,
merely bobbing).
From: Steve Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 7, 2004 1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Word Of the Subgenius...
..
Tim May has probably gotten all strange in the last few years, living in
his remote hilltop home, waiting to see the end that will not come since
the y2k crisis turned
, some terrorist's laptop is going to have a
post-it note on the screen with the password.
..
-TD
--John Kelsey
From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 9, 2004 1:19 PM
To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages
.
As recently as two years ago, I had a
The difference here is that Bad_Guy is visiting the
country for the first time. Now, there are fewer
questions to ask.
But that's a common enough situation that the questioners are going to be ready
for it. And I bet a lot of the point of their questioning is just to see if
they detect signs
From: James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 18, 2004 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flaw with lava lamp entropy source
..
These days the video entropy source is not a lava lamp, but a
lens cap - in the dark, the ccds generate significant thermal
noise, which
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 21, 2004 10:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Israeli Airport Security Questioning Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December
15, 2004
At 02:16 PM 12/20/04 -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
No doubt a real intelligence agent would be good
Interesting questions: How hard is it for someone to actually hit an airplane
with a rifle bullet? How often do airplane maintenance people notice
bulletholes?
My understanding is that a single bullethole in a plane is not likely to do
anything serious to its operation--the hole isn't big
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 3, 2005 4:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to Build a Global Internet Tsunami Warning System in a Month
..
3. Homebrew warning systems will face the same problems as eg pro
volcano warning systems: too many false
From: R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 6, 2005 11:47 AM
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire
..
Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire
By ANNE EISENBERG
I just wonder what the false negative rates
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 10, 2005 7:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ready, Aim, ID Check: In Wrong Hands, Gun Won't Fire
..
Some gun accidents are suicides reported as such to avoid
embarrassment to the family.
I've heard this from other people, too--some in reasonably
Just as a data point, PGPDisk works fine on CF devices. I use this for a CF
card on which I keep a bunch of my work for movement between laptop and desktop
machines.
--John
From: Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 5, 2005 8:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pi: Less Random Than We Thought
Well, if it were generated by a random process, we'd expect to see every
n-bit substring in there somewhere, sooner or later, since the sequence
From: Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 9, 2005 3:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IP] Real ID = National ID (fwd from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
..
What do we need security for? We need security because a lot of
people hate the U.S., and because we won't close our borders, and
because society
Hey, I think I saw a bald eagle roosting up in that tree. You know, the one
next to those buried Indian artifacts, right next to those rusting metal drums
I got from Russel Bliss.
--John
From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 23, 2005 9:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want...
..
Saw a local security expert on the news, and he stated the
obvious: Random earches and whatnot are going to do zero
for someone determined,
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