RE: Return of the death of cypherpunks.

2005-10-31 Thread Tyler Durden
I don't agree. One thing we do know is that, although Crypto is available and, in special contexts, used, it's use in other contexts is almost counterproduct, sending up a red flag so that those that "Protect Our Freedoms" will come sniffing around and bring to bear their full arsenal of tech

Re: Return of the death of cypherpunks.

2005-10-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > Since cryptography these days is routine and > > uncontroversial, there is no longer any strong > > reason for the cypherpunks list to continue to > > exist. John Kelsey > The ratio of political wanking to technical posts and > of talkers to thinkers to coders needs

Re: Return of the death of cypherpunks.

2005-10-31 Thread John Kelsey
>From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Oct 28, 2005 12:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Return of the death of cypherpunks. >From: Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .. >> The list needs not to stay dead, with some finite >> effort on our part (all of us) we can well resurrect >>

Re: Return of the death of cypherpunks.

2003-10-02 Thread John Young
James overlooks the agricultural virtue of cypherpunks death and rebirth for the natural cycle gets rid of old growth and allows for a new improved version. No doubt the old crop doesn't get much satisfaction being taken for manure, nor do the new sprouts see any reason to hail the shit doing