Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-18 Thread ken
R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 2:58 PM + 12/12/03, ken wrote: Bruce is a lefty, but not a statist rghhht... That's like saying that he's a sow, but not a boar... grunt grunt

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-12 Thread ken
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Sterling makes a comment betraying what Ludwig Von Mises called the anti-capitalist mentality when he quipped to Godwin: Sure, we hate Exxon because they're huge and they're everywhere. He was pointing it out, not preaching it. I think over in Austin they do

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-12 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 2:58 PM + 12/12/03, ken wrote: Bruce is a lefty, but not a statist rghhht... That's like saying that he's a sow, but not a boar... :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 03:31:22PM +, ken wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: I don't know what entryist means. It might be helpful to define your terms. Really? That's odd. Taking you at your word it means someone who joins (i.e. enters) a political party or another organisation in

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:37:27AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Veridian green is entryist, not commie. The watermelons would perceive it as right entryist, or libertarian entryist. I don't know what entryist means. It might be helpful to define your terms. The standard green viewpoint is

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread ken
Declan McCullagh wrote: I don't know what entryist means. It might be helpful to define your terms. Really? That's odd. Taking you at your word it means someone who joins (i.e. enters) a political party or another organisation in order to take it over and change it to their own point of view.

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread ken
R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 4:57 PM -0800 12/9/03, Eric Murray wrote: I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny. On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe. When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately these days the latter Tim isn't letting the

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/11/2003 10:04:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that is true, why can't it simply be called capitalist? I suspect because actual capitalists would have some problems with it. Sterling makes a comment betraying what Ludwig Von Mises called the

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:07 PM -0500 12/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sterling is a capitalist in the same way that Brin is a libertarian. Better be careful when you say that, or Brin'll fire up his screaming monkey routine at you... therefore feel some need to candy coat their statism. Say 'amen', somebody...

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread Anatoly Vorobey
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:26:22AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Unfortunately, if you want to read Tim, you have to read his evil twin Skippy, too. Living in *his* killfile, on the other hand, and if he actually uses it, can be useful. Try it, you'll like it. So what you're saying is that

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread Tim May
On Dec 9, 2003, at 8:46 PM, Roy M. Silvernail wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:57, Eric Murray wrote: Ok, bye! plonk Eric (just to make it crystal clear, Tim's going in my _personal_ killfile) Shit, mine too. I really don't get what's happened to Tim. He used to be a great resource.

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 19:57, Eric Murray wrote: Ok, bye! plonk Eric (just to make it crystal clear, Tim's going in my _personal_ killfile) Shit, mine too. I really don't get what's happened to Tim. He used to be a great resource. Now he's even forgotten how to troll well. shrug

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 3:58 PM +0200 12/10/03, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: So what you're saying is that we need a remote-plonk mechanism to insert oneself into another person's killfile (merely entertaining this thought makes me a loathsome Bolshie, I'm sure). Yup. On both counts. :-). Seriously, in IM, like AIM, for

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Green = Red. Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie. Veridian, my ass. My thoughts exactly. Regards, Matt-

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 3:59 PM -0500 12/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling Green = Red. Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie. Veridian, my ass. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:57 PM -0800 12/9/03, Eric Murray wrote: I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny. On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe. When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted. Unfortunately these days the latter Tim isn't letting the former Tim near the

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 9 Dec 2003 at 23:44, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 3:59 PM -0500 12/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling Green = Red. Bruce Sterling is, for all intents and purposes, a commie. Veridian, my ass. Veridian green is entryist, not commie. The watermelons would

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-09 Thread Tim May
On Dec 9, 2003, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim's whine (complaint) withstanding, I just got the January issue of Reason in the mail and of interest is Mike Godwin's interview of Bruce Sterling- Cybergreen: Bruce Sterling on media, design, fiction, and the future (p 42-50). It's

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-09 Thread Tim May
On Dec 9, 2003, at 4:57 PM, Eric Murray wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:05:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote: Since Eric Murray has expressed distaste with my views I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny. On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe. When Tim

Re: Speaking of Reason

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Murray
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:05:29PM -0800, Tim May wrote: Since Eric Murray has expressed distaste with my views I pretty much agree with your views, minus the racism and misogny. On days that the brilliant thoughtful Tim posts, I'm in awe. When Tim the asshole posts, I'm disgusted.