Denmark, update on Echelon

2000-12-08 Thread Bo Elkjaer
Hi Just a short notice on the Echelon-discussion in Denmark The danish parliament Folketinget has declined to aid the EU committee which is investigating Echelon. The EU committee formally contacted the head of the parliaments permanent select committee for controlling the intelligence-services

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-08 Thread Tom Vogt
Nomen Nescio wrote: I guess an equivalent ID will do. in germany, you need your ID card to open a bank account (um, for those not in the know: we have state-issue ID cards in addition to passports. the passport is a travel document, used to visit non-EU countries. the ID card is used

Re: IBM Uses Keystroke-monitoring in NJ Mob Case (was Re:

2000-12-08 Thread Ken Brown
Petro wrote: R. A. Hettinga wrote: [...] As I've written, the FBI should run quality house cleaning services in large cities. How do you know they don't? In every office or factory I've ever been in, including government ones where we kept paper copies of tax returns (yes folks,

Gates to Privacy Rescue? Riiight! (was Re: BNA's Internet LawNews (ILN) - 12/8/00)

2000-12-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:30 AM -0500 on 12/8/00, BNA Highlights wrote: THOUGH TECHNOLOGY MIGHT HELP PRIVACY A meeting of business leaders in Redmond, Washington led to a frank debate over the insufficiency of North American action on consumer privacy and the potential for technology to play a key role in

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Re: Questions of size...

2000-12-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, petro wrote: Mr. Brown (in the library with a candlestick) said: (RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of economics :-) Just by the way, how widespread is this use of

Re: Questions of size...

2000-12-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 8:46 AM -0800 on 12/8/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: Just by the way, how widespread is this use of the word 'geodesic'? Not especially. :-). Offhand, I'd refer to many of the things I've seen it used for here as 'distributed' or 'fractal'. Is 'geodesic'

Re: Gates to Privacy Rescue? Riiight! (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 12/8/00)

2000-12-08 Thread Adam Shostack
On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:07:38AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: | | At 8:30 AM -0500 on 12/8/00, BNA Highlights wrote: | | | THOUGH TECHNOLOGY MIGHT HELP PRIVACY | A meeting of business leaders in Redmond, Washington led to | a frank debate over the insufficiency of North American | action

Re: Gates to Privacy Rescue? Riiight!

2000-12-08 Thread Tim May
[[EMAIL PROTECTED] removed from the distribution list. They claimed not to want any politics discussion, and they are a closed list, so why is political discussion going to it?] At 11:50 AM -0500 12/8/00, Adam Shostack wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:07:38AM -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: | |

Re: Questions of size...

2000-12-08 Thread Bill Stewart
At 08:46 AM 12/8/00 -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, petro wrote: Mr. Brown (in the library with a candlestick) said: (RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of economics :-)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fractal geodesic networks

2000-12-08 Thread Tim May
At 3:57 PM -0800 12/8/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Jim Choate wrote: Fractal simply means non-integer dimension. Yeah, that's where it started. But I'm using it more in the sense of meaning the properties that fractal structures have; self-similarity across scales, for one,

Re: Re: Fractal geodesic networks

2000-12-08 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 5:49 PM -0800 on 12/8/00, Bill Stewart wrote: At 02:47 PM 12/8/00 -0600, Jim Choate emetted: 'fractal geodesic network' is spin doctor bullshit. Well, buzzword bingo output anyway. :-). "Neological" is so much more... euphemisitic... And the Internet is most certainly NOT(!) geodesic

Re: Fractal geodesic networks

2000-12-08 Thread Carol A Braddock
perhaps the scale larger than the highest layer nodes is no longer recognisable as being part of the fractal. Likewise the nodes at each ppp have some organization as to how they handle data internaly. The shape of a shoreline is often used to illustrate fractal self similarity, but you quickly

No Subject

2000-12-08 Thread Anonymous
update HONG KONG--Siemens has a solution for people who constantly forget computer passwords: a mouse that recognizes fingerprints. Called the ID Mouse, the device uses biometrics to take advantage of the unique features of people's fingerprints. German electronics maker Siemens, which showed

Microsoft banned from security email list

2000-12-08 Thread Nomen Nescio
By Stephen Shankland Staff Writer, CNET News.com December 8, 2000, 1:05 p.m. PT URL: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4062758.html The administrator of a popular computer security mailing list banned postings from Microsoft on Thursday after the company stripped detailed information out of

NYT:The Nexus of Privacy and Security

2000-12-08 Thread Anonymous
By JOHN SCHWARTZ EDMOND, Wash., Dec. 7 Ñ Trust us. Please? That is the message from leaders of high-technology businesses and advocacy groups at SafeNet 2000, a Microsoft-sponsored conference on computer security and privacy. The stated purpose of the conference, which opened here today, is

Personal Firewalls Fail the Leak Test

2000-12-08 Thread Nomen Nescio
By Brian McWilliams In an attempt to show that personal firewalls may afford their users little protection against serious threats, a respected PC security expert has released a new software tool that pokes holes in many of the leading desktop security packages. Security-conscious Internet

RE: Signatures and MIME Attachments Getting Out of Hand

2000-12-08 Thread Tim May
At 10:14 AM -0500 12/8/00, Trei, Peter wrote: File: SMIME.txt Sean writes: ASCII plain text *is* The Way. But guess what, PGP/MIME *is* plain text. You can even parse it with your eyeballs. Sean: Guess what: Your message comes as an attachment, which I have to open seperately. Peter

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-08 Thread Ken Brown
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote: [...] I am not, of course, a banking lawyer, but I certainly hang out with enough of those folks these days, I've certainly had enough of this stuff shoved into my head over the years, and, I expect that to get a bank account without a Social Security number in