Re: Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-15 Thread Duncan Frissell
At 12:47 PM 12/6/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance, there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security number to open a bank account, for any of a number of reasons including credit checks, and checks on

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-08 Thread Tom Vogt
Nomen Nescio wrote: I guess an equivalent ID will do. in germany, you need your ID card to open a bank account (um, for those not in the know: we have state-issue ID cards in addition to passports. the passport is a travel document, used to visit non-EU countries. the ID card is used

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-08 Thread Ken Brown
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote: [...] I am not, of course, a banking lawyer, but I certainly hang out with enough of those folks these days, I've certainly had enough of this stuff shoved into my head over the years, and, I expect that to get a bank account without a Social Security number in

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread Trei, Peter
R. A. Hettinga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance, there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security number to open a bank account Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:20 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote: Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account in the US? I'd be quite suprised if this is the case. I would be surprised if you didn't need at least a tax ID number, myself. I'm not sure, because I don't have one, but I

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread Trei, Peter
Green carders, yes. Visiting foreigners who are not working, not neccesarily. Tourists certainly not. How about if James Higginsbottom opens an account in the London branch of Citibank? Does he need a US SSN to do so? (I don't think so). Can he use the account in the US (I suspect he can).

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:29 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote: Green carders, yes. Visiting foreigners who are not working, not neccesarily. Tourists certainly not. How about if James Higginsbottom opens an account in the London branch of Citibank? Does he need a US SSN to do so? (I don't think so).

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 10:20 AM -0500 on 12/7/00, Trei, Peter wrote: Are you saying that a visiting foreigner can't open a bank account in the US? I'd be quite suprised if this is the case. At 10:25 AM 12/7/2000 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: I would be surprised if you didn't need at least a

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread Tom Vogt
"Trei, Peter" wrote: R. A. Hettinga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance, there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security number to open a bank account Are you saying that a visiting foreigner

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:59 AM -0800 on 12/7/00, James A. Donald wrote: Many years ago Ah. :-). Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
Tom Vogt wrote: I guess an equivalent ID will do. in germany, you need your ID card to open a bank account (um, for those not in the know: we have state-issue ID cards in addition to passports. the passport is a travel document, used to visit non-EU countries. the ID card is used inside the

RE: Knowing your customer

2000-12-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
R. A. Hettinga wrote: Duncan Frissell popped up here on cypherpunks with pointers to the odd bank in South Dakota or somewhere, 4 or 5 years ago, where you could get a bank account without a SSN. It was exceptional in its example, and I would doubt it possible even now. ... Has anyone

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-06 Thread Declan McCullagh
A minor clarification: The formal proposal known as "Know Your Customer" was withdrawn (see my back articles on that topic). But other regulations in the same vein require banks to require ID. -Declan On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at 11:18:53AM -0800, Greg Broiles wrote: On Tue, Dec 05, 2000 at

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-06 Thread Greg Broiles
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 12:07:57PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: A minor clarification: The formal proposal known as "Know Your Customer" was withdrawn (see my back articles on that topic). But other regulations in the same vein require banks to require ID. I'm not a banking law geek, but

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-06 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:04 AM -0800 on 12/6/00, Greg Broiles wrote: Or am I thinking of something else? You're thinking of something else, but you're close enough. For instance, there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social security number to open a bank account, for any of a number of reasons

Re: Knowing your customer

2000-12-06 Thread Declan McCullagh
Oh, and the proposed KYC rules would have required banks to go further than requiring ID (other current rules, as you say, require that) and try to determine source of funds, etc. -Declan You're thinking of something slightly different. The Fed-Treasury-FDIC action that caused so much fuss