Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread oshwm
On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl wrote: >On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 01:54:34AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: >> In addition to not putting retarded spaces in links >> which does nothing useful, you can also learn to >> preserve threading on replies, which is actually

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 01:54:34AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > In addition to not putting retarded spaces in links > which does nothing useful, you can also learn to > preserve threading on replies, which is actually useful. > Top posting, bulk quoting, html, shortlink svcs... all bad. > wtfppl. Who

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:06:49PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > A worthy follow up read, on the topic of political appointments and a > man who certainly bucked the establishment expectations during his > career - I'm the haters will hate, yet it's hard to avoid that twinge of > inspiration

Re: Global warming/climate change

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
NOAA - the climatic gift that keeps on giving false data, fudged reports and "total computer failures" so that the data can't be verified. I wonder what could possibly drive "scientists" to be so ... political? Money? Pizza? H. Sterling Burnett: Climategate Redux! NOAA Scientists Fudge, Lose

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 07:38:16AM -0800, Razer wrote: > Oh and fuck your html phobia. Fuck htmlphiles. Mail is text based.

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:03:03AM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 02/22/2017 03:51 AM, oshwm wrote: > > On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 01:54:34AM -0500,

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 07:40 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: No fair filtering. Don't tell me what the fuck to do.

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
Top posted! OMFG! I beg to differ about not putting spaces in links you don't want followed. List archives are suck suck sucked dry daily for un-obfucated email addresses and links by all kinds of bot-sucks. Oh and fuck your html phobia. Learn to view your emails in plain text and ignore

Re: Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Razer wrote: > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Is email really that hard? > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:35:51 -0500 > From: Joshua Case > To: Razer > > It

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Razer wrote: > > On 02/22/2017 10:04 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > >> You're always very polite, Eugen, > > So are Nazis when they're handing you a bar of soap and pointing you to the > 'showers'. > > You say you actually MODERATE lists? > > ROTF!

Domestic Spying: CIA guidelines out-of-compliance for 2 years after Congress passed Section 309

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
H/t: Emptywheel: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/834446983624552449 and @thecipherbrief https://twitter.com/thecipherbrief/status/834434575837360129 New CIA guidelines set restrictions for incidentally collected intelligence on U.S. persons after 5 years (Technology Advances Prompt

GE, Intel, ATT... Deploying Surveillance Cities In Your Country

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
http://fortune.com/2017/02/22/san-diego-ge-intel-att/ General Electric will put cameras, microphones, and sensors on 3,200 street lights in San Diego this year, marking the first large-scale use of "smart city" tools GE says can help monitor traffic and pinpoint crime, but raising potential

Fwd: Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
"Just because I ask a friend about him Just because I spoke his name somewhere Just because I rang his number by mistake today He thinks I still care Just because I haunt the same old places Where the mem'ry of him lingers everywhere Just because I'm not the boy/girl I used to be He thinks I

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Mirimir
On 02/22/2017 10:10 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:02:50PM -0300, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 5:51 AM, oshwm wrote: >>> >>> On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl wrote: >>> Who is the list owner

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread John Newman
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 02/22/2017 12:10 PM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> On 02/22/2017 10:54 AM, Mirimir responds to Eugen Leitl: It's allright, I haven't read anything worthwhile here in years. >>> I hope that you're exaggerating;) >>> >>

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John Newman wrote: > > The wonderful world we live in. Trump is not the only person who can build walls, my dear. ;) http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/funny-kitten.jpg Ignore the trolls and be happy, my dear John. It's the

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:03:03AM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote: > LOL - don't let the door hit yez in the ass. :) > So let's see - Signing posts was not mentioned as a Good or Bad thing, > but given what list this is, signing /has/ to be at least tolerated. > That means hard wrapped text with

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:15:49AM -0800, Razer wrote: > > > On 02/22/2017 10:04 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > >You're always very polite, Eugen, > > > So are Nazis when they're handing you a bar of soap and pointing you to the > 'showers'. Just remember to get warm under your grampa

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
Various said: > signing Is never a problem, so long as it's done according to spec so MUA's can handle it correctly. > signing means badness Signing does not dictate or modify the signed content. If your signing tool does, it's broken, go find a new one. If you author shit eqiquette to sign,

Re: Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Sorry, I prefer this song, Razer. It's my theme in days full of frustration, when I think if I am just wasting my time among the people. Always think I would be happier living on a very, very isolated beach, but the problem is I do absolutely hate heat, I don't eat fish, and I am an Internet and

Re: Peter Thiel, Palantir, NSA... versus You!

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 10:52 AM, grarpamp wrote: https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/how-peter-thiels-palantir-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-the-whole-world/ Top Secret Strap 1 Donald Trump has inherited the most powerful machine for spying ever devised. How this petty, vengeful man might wield and expand

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 10:54 AM, Mirimir responds to Eugen Leitl: It's allright, I haven't read anything worthwhile here in years. I hope that you're exaggerating;) I'm just wondering if Eugen Leitl ever contributed anything useful, or he's just a lurker/whiner who hasn't contributed anything

Re: "We Won't Block Pirate Bay" Swedish Telecom Co

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer wrote: > https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-170221/ All the filesharers in the world should be devoting equal resources to developing filesharing in the darknets. Fighting on clearnet is always

Re: "We Won't Block Pirate Bay" Swedish Telecom Co

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 10:37 AM, grarpamp wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer wrote: https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-170221/ All the filesharers in the world should be devoting equal resources to developing filesharing in the

Fwd: Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Is email really that hard? Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:35:51 -0500 From: Joshua Case To: Razer It really isn't about "going" anywhere - you are actively filling up my mailbox with shit. You

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > I really made a mistake back then. This list should have never been > resurrected > in the current form. Sorry, Eugen, the list didn't ressuct because it did never die, in fact. It changed a lot, and not to a better list,

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 10:04 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: You're always very polite, Eugen, So are Nazis when they're handing you a bar of soap and pointing you to the 'showers'. You say you actually MODERATE lists? ROTF! Which ones? Rr

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread juan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 17:10:44 + Eugen Leitl wrote: > > > > oshwm wasn't being offensive or aggressive. He/she (I don't know > > whether is a girl or a boy, never needed to ask it) was just > > informing you - in a bit ironic way, I admit - that CP is a list > > with

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 3:29 PM, Razer wrote: > > He wants moderation? He should start his own list. He is a member of this list, exactly like you, Eugen, hundreds of different persons, and me. He can say what annoys him here. It doesn't mean someone will answer to him or

Peter Thiel, Palantir, NSA... versus You!

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/22/how-peter-thiels-palantir-helped-the-nsa-spy-on-the-whole-world/ Top Secret Strap 1 Donald Trump has inherited the most powerful machine for spying ever devised. How this petty, vengeful man might wield and expand the sprawling American spy apparatus, already

[OT] 12-Year-Old Marley Dias Is Publishing An Activism Guide For Children And Teens

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
This gorgeous little lady is pretty young, black, beautiful, and zillions of times more intelligent than all the trolls here together. Suck it, racist losers! >:P https://www.bustle.com/p/12-year-old-marley-dias-is-publishing-activism-guide-for-children-teens-35055 With Love, Ceci <3

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/2017 11:52 AM, Razer wrote: > > > On 02/22/2017 08:22 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 07:38:16AM -0800, Razer wrote: >>> Oh and fuck your html phobia. >> Fuck htmlphiles. Mail is text >> based. > > Listmail was

Re: "We Won't Block Pirate Bay" Swedish Telecom Co

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:46:00AM -0800, Razer wrote: > On 02/22/2017 10:37 AM, grarpamp wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Razer wrote: > >>https://torrentfreak.com/wont-block-pirate-bay-swedish-telecoms-giant-says-170221/ > >All the filesharers in the world should be

Re: Domestic Spying: CIA guidelines out-of-compliance for 2 years after Congress passed Section 309

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:41:42AM -0800, Razer wrote: > Executive Order 12333 sets the basic mission statement of the intelligence > community, which includes following the law and respecting rights. It > requires the elements to collect reliable intelligence that provides the > President and

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/22/2017 03:51 AM, oshwm wrote: > On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl > wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 01:54:34AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: >>> In addition to not putting retarded spaces in links which does >>>

[RUS] afterthought of Putin, FSB "stopped the work of 53 foreign

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Imagine the field the day the Western MSM would have had if this were Clapper, Flynn, McMaster or some USA "intelligence" head saying the same thing. Gives a sense of the stoic strength and Russia/Russians face their own realities with... Respect to Russia. Vladimir Putin and FSB make an offer

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 03:42:21PM -0500, John Newman wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Mirimir wrote: > > > >> On 02/22/2017 12:10 PM, Razer wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 02/22/2017 10:54 AM, Mirimir responds to Eugen Leitl: > It's allright, I haven't read anything

TheDuran covers MILO's Breitbart resignation

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Milo Yiannopoulos has his book canceled, resigns from Breitbart http://theduran.com/milo-yiannopoulos-book-canceled-resigns-breitbart/ Breitbart: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/02/21/milo-resigns-breitbart-news/ http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/02/21/milo-apologizes/

Juan's raging against communism

2017-02-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Has a friend in Dr. David Duke: The David Duke Show: The Real Holocaust Denial – Jewish-Led Communism http://www.dailystormer.com/the-david-duke-show-the-real-holocaust-denial-jewish-led-communism/86896/ " Today Dr. Duke talked about the Jewish distraction from and cover up of the greatest

Re: Juan's raging against communism

2017-02-22 Thread juan
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:09:18 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Has a friend in Dr. David Duke: sorry, I don't want nor need that sort of 'ally'.

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 08:22 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 07:38:16AM -0800, Razer wrote: Oh and fuck your html phobia. Fuck htmlphiles. Mail is text based. Listmail was text-based back whenand were current and operational hypertext markup language That's a lng time

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 5:51 AM, oshwm wrote: > > On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > >Who is the list owner these days? If we do not get moderation going I'm > >out of here. > > Bye then :) Eugen, oshwm wasn't being

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:02:50PM -0300, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 5:51 AM, oshwm wrote: > > > > On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl wrote: > > > > >Who is the list owner these days? If we do not get moderation going

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 08:17 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: Also, please don't attach large files unless unavoidable. 1.5M pic is _many_ plain text emails (hi Razer). That I can do. For expediency I often 'constrain' the image sizes instead of editing them down to size.

"We Won't Block Pirate Bay" Swedish Telecom Co

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
This email in plain, or rich text. As always. Last week, a Swedish Patent and Market Court of Appeal ordered The Pirate Bay and streaming portal Swefilmer to be blocked by internet service provider Bredbandsbolaget for the next three years.

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Razer
On 02/22/2017 09:10 AM, Eugen Leitl opined: I really made a mistake back then. This list should have never been resurrected in the current form. You're trolling for a flamewar fuckwad. Tolerance and patience will kill even the best list. Get lost Fascist. This is not the way to

AMD: Back in da Biz!

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd https://www.google.com/search?q=amd+zen+ryzen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A5 http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-naples-server-cpu-vega-gpu-platform/ Includes ARM Cortex-A5 (security core), ECC, crypto, ...

Re: [OT] 12-Year-Old Marley Dias Is Publishing An Activism Guide For Children And Teens

2017-02-22 Thread James A. Donald
On 2/23/2017 11:27 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: This gorgeous little lady is pretty young, black, beautiful, and zillions of times more intelligent than all the trolls here together. One of the reasons that the left is collapsing is that they are piously proclaiming women and blacks, and worse,

The Only Thing, Historically, That's Curbed Inequality: Catastrophe

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/scheidel-great-leveler-inequality-violence/517164/ https://politics.slashdot.org/story/17/02/21/2114240/the-only-thing-historically-thats-curbed-inequality-catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Compression The Atlantic has an

Wyden Bill To Prevent Border Phone Searches

2017-02-22 Thread grarpamp
https://www.onthewire.io/wyden-to-introduce-bill-to-prohibit-warrantless-phone-searches-at-border/ https://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=B947731A-2394-484B-81E3-FDD49530EBF4=1

Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
Also, please don't attach large files unless unavoidable. 1.5M pic is _many_ plain text emails (hi Razer).