Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-29 Thread rooty
its obvious James don't know anything about CPU's Original Message On Mar 22, 2018, 4:24 AM, wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:22:09AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: >>> I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s running Ubuntu 16.04 >>> server, for a

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 02:09:55PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 3/25/2018 9:34 AM, juan wrote: > > Regardless, as far as I understand it, the problem is not > > speculative execution per se, but shitty implementations > > that don't take security into account. Because the

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread jamesd
On 3/25/2018 9:34 AM, juan wrote: Regardless, as far as I understand it, the problem is not speculative execution per se, but shitty implementations that don't take security into account. Because the engineers responsible for them are incompetent or/and corrupt.

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread juan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 09:10:36 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > > Point being, it seems hard, even for the chinese govt, to > > know for sure that the system isn't backdoored by many of the > > western scum 'players' in the 'industry'. > > Again, Orange Pi is all Chinese manufacture,

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread jamesd
On 3/25/2018 8:07 AM, juan wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 07:48:06 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: On 3/23/2018 2:00 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:24:24PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety of chip makers have

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread juan
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 07:48:06 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 3/23/2018 2:00 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:24:24PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > >> The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety > >> of chip makers have been improving on the

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-24 Thread jamesd
On 3/23/2018 2:00 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:24:24PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety of chip makers have been improving on the design in a variety of ways, so it is not US cloned, but is US descended -

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-22 Thread Steve Kinney
On 03/14/2018 11:40 AM, jim bell wrote: > Security researchers find flaws in AMD chips but raise eyebrows with rushed > disclosure [... ] > Why the extremely non-technical video shot on green screen with stock > backgrounds composited in? Why the scare tactics of calling out AMD's use in >

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 09:24:24PM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > The original CPU design was purchased from the US, but a variety of chip > makers have been improving on the design in a variety of ways, so it is not > US cloned, but is US descended - rather distantly descended by now.

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-22 Thread jamesd
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:22:09AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s running Ubuntu 16.04 server, for a ridiculously affordable computer cluster. On 3/22/2018 6:10 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote: Are these non-capitalist systems? Genuinely

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 11:22:09AM +1000, jam...@echeque.com wrote: > I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s running Ubuntu 16.04 > server, for a ridiculously affordable computer cluster. This is actually Are these non-capitalist systems? Genuinely commies CPUs? Not cloned

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-22 Thread jamesd
jam...@echeque.com wrote: I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s On 3/22/2018 11:58 AM, juan wrote: so you assume the allwinner chip is backdoored by the chinese and your US corporate masters don't have access to it? I think the party would be most unhappy if

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-21 Thread juan
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:22:09 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > I have therefore purchased some 64 bit Orange Pi PC2s \ so you assume the allwinner chip is backdoored by the chinese and your US corporate masters don't have access to it?

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-21 Thread jamesd
It is evident that due to carelessness, malice, and powerful conspiracy, all closed source CPUs have holes that governments take advantage of. Chinese CPUs are not so bad, because the Chinese empire is smaller than the US empire. I don't really care if China spies on me, since all my

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 05:38:54PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > https://www.amdflaws.com/ > https://safefirmware.com/amdflaws_whitepaper.pdf > https://safefirmware.com/CTO+Letter.pdf > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDByiRhMjVA > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYhOwikuGQ > > > As with Intel's

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-14 Thread grarpamp
https://www.amdflaws.com/ https://safefirmware.com/amdflaws_whitepaper.pdf https://safefirmware.com/CTO+Letter.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDByiRhMjVA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYhOwikuGQ As with Intel's decades of fail, this is yet another salvo exposing the proven laughable

Re: Flaws in AMD CPUs.

2018-03-14 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 03:40:26PM +, jim bell wrote: > Security researchers find flaws in AMD chips but raise eyebrows with rushed > disclosure > What is the problem with "rushed disclosure"? A vulnerability is like an asset and the owner can do whatever he wants with it. Why care about