Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-16 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 16, 2016 6:30 AM, "Cari Machet"  wrote:
>
> We have male and female aspects of our own selves and also in there in
our psyche and spirit  

Dear Cari,

Sorry for the bad joke/confession, but in the beginning, I thought it was
very ridiculous when someone mentioned that I could be a "man" using a
"fake profile", because of my "masculine comments".

But after receiving in private some nasty, disgusting and cruel messages, I
discovered my inner male feelings:

-  All the times when I read some really unfair and aggressive message, my
middle fingers have a powerful boner.  Stupid messages are a potent Viagra
for my middle fingers, hahaha!!  ;D

Kisses of your fool and crazy Ceci!  Wish you a lovely day!  :D


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-16 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
My lovely Cari,

Hope you and all your loved ones be blessed in this lovely day.  Thanks a
lot for your sincere kindness!  <3

I am not Muslim, but I live next to a Mosque and already studied and worked
with Muslims.  All I had seem in all these years is respect, honor and
tolerance.  I respect them very much.

I am very proud of living in the center of my city, next to Catholic
Churches, Budhist Temples, Spiritualist Houses, Mosques, Synagogues and
several other religious places.  It is very beautiful to see the faith, the
eternal human search for answers.

Sorry for my bad comportament in the list.  I am not so vain or cruel.  I
received some disgusting messages and was provoking my haters, but the
manicure story was true, hihi!  :)

One of my voluntary works with female transgenders is teaching them how to
use make up, making their own manicure, feel secure using high wheels...
It seems futile for most of the people, but they are very fragile, still
working their self esteem, learning how to show to the world their gender,
to express themselves.  I cried a lot when I see one of them feeling more
beautiful, more feminine, absolutely amazing just because of a baby pink
lipstick.  :)

Sometimes, I receive some beauty products  (make up, nail polishes,
shampoos, creams, etc)  to test new brands and write reviews to beauty
sites and blogs.  I was very good at it, but I always am only a ghost
writer and a ghost model for hands and feet, haha!!  ;)

I use most of the products with "my girls" or donate some little kits to
asylums.  Older women like to feel more "colored", more beautiful too.  I
like the idea of working with their self esteem, to remember them how
beautiful they are, how beautiful and colored the world is.  They are
living flowers.  It's a simple thing, but they feel more motived to walking
and making exercises, to fight against their depression and eventual health
problems.  :)

Now, after healing of this new worst pneumonia and discover what's
happening in my work  (money troubles, money troubles everywhere!),  I want
to make some work with the refugees living in my city, teaching a bit more
of Portuguese to the children.

The kids are so smart, so amazing!  They learn everything so fast and just
want to be happy, to study, to hug the other children.  They saw what means
a war, so they love the peace, they love to play...  All the meals for them
are great, even the simplest ones, because they were starving when arrived
here...  :(

One of my friends is a Japanese girl, some years older than me.  When she
arrived in my country, she had the same problems that my parents had.  She
only knowed the Japanese language.  One day, in the school, with 5 years
old, she needed to go to the bathroom and didn't know how to say it in
Portuguese.
She made her necessities in the class, crying, feeling humiliated,
listening to the laugh of the other students, because her teacher screamed
several times with her, asking to return to the chair and she didn't
understood anything.

I don't want these poor children suffer the same bullying that my parents,
their friends and my friend suffered.  My French is old garbage, I don't
speak Crioulo, but well, I can learn their languages and they can learn
Portuguese...  And after, with more time and $resource$, programming
languages too!  :)

I promise I will treat myself better, my dear Cari.  Thank you.  Please,
take care of yourself with tenderness too!  :*

Kisses and hugs from Brazil!  <3

Ceci


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-16 Thread Cari Machet
So its not muslims that treat women like crap really so much its more
everyone ... men women children ... infants ... thats the culture all
around and this list isnt living in a bubble

We have male and female aspects of our own selves and also in there in our
psyche and spirit we treat the female like crap

Lets not even talk about how "mother earth" is treated

Why? Lotsa reasons mostly infantile but it needs to shift and we can all do
our part

Please ask yourselves questions about your behavior and let the ego sit by
itself for 10 seconds of your life

I am connected to a domestic violence organization & there are problems
they work to help solve all over the world ... not just the middle east so
... you have a mirror whoever or whatever you are? Because by stating
things about muslims is just a reflection of state policy directives so
where are YOU ? I know your in there somewhere

I am also calling out cici here ... please treat yourself better

On Oct 15, 2016 4:11 AM, "rooty"  wrote:



Hi sea sea honey.- Muslim's are know to treat their women like shit -
please run away to America the land of the free.




 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 9:40 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:


On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> >
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming
> >
>
>
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



>
>
>
> >> This list is less than useless.
> >
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows.
> >
>
>
> Translation: completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'?


>
>
>
> > Anyway, I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list.
> >
>
>
> What’s your problem with the crypto list?

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda?


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




>
>
>
> John


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread rooty
Hi sea sea honey.- Muslim's are know to treat their women like shit - please 
run away to America the land of the free.




 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 9:40 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 20:46:51 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

>
> > On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:23 PM, juan  wrote:
> >
> > global warming is a hoax - and as I mentioned before you
> > are not even using the correct scam terminology : global warming
> >
>
>
> Global warming is not a hoax.


global warming is a hoax. Then again, try telling a
jew-kristian that kristianity is a hoax...



>
>
>
> >> This list is less than useless.
> >
> > translation : useless for establishment propaganda. Though
> > there's a good deal of establishment propaganda in it, so
> > who knows.
> >
>
>
> Translation: completely fucking barren of any worthwhile discussion,
> this one included.


So, why do you bother with it, and with your world-reheating
'science'?


>
>
>
> > Anyway, I'm sure you would be warmly welcomed in some Elite
> > Enlightened Institution like the 'cryptography' mailing
> > list.
> >
>
>
> What’s your problem with the crypto list?

I made it quite clear why that list is a cesspool =) - Check
today's archives.


> Too much technical talk?

third-rate, nerdy, pseudo-technical talk. Pretty much useless.
Or more correctly, pretty useful as far as not dealing with
fundamental issues goes. A collection of useful 'idiots'. Not
idiots of course but fully corrupt clowns.



> Not enough Russian propaganda?


Well, since any 'american' forum, including this one, is usually
100% 'american' propaganda, russian propaganda at least brings
some variety to the table.

But I can understand how russian propaganda would upset a few
people in this list...




>
>
>
> John

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 14, 2016 4:22 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" 

Hahaha!!!  Sorry, the idea is pretty fun.  "Or you let me bury my face in
your lap, or I'll commit suicide!"  Hahaha!!!  It's a direct threat much
better than yours, baby!  Hahaha!!!  ;D

Considering that my face is in Sao Paulo and your astonishing odorous lap
is in New York, it would not be very practical, Razer, hahaha!!!  ;D

Hey, please, may you make me a favour?  Stop creating fake accounts to
annoy me, saying bullshit and to leave the list.  Cyber bullying is very
childish.  Please, spend your free time in something more useful, more
constructive to the world.

It was interesting to discover today that you are _NOT_ able of compassion
and kindness when you see someone suffering.  Talking about Human Rights on
a mailing list or twitter is very easy.  Being really human is not, Razer.
Very contraditory talking so much about Human Rights and say to a person
dies, asking them to suicide, right after humiliating them in public
several times.  It's cruel.

Someday, I certainly will die, but not because I didn't buried my face in
your lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Take care, fool guy.  Kisses in your fabulous yummy lap, hahaha!!!  ;D

Ceci, the pervert who attacks male laps...  Run to the mountains, all the
men with delicious manly musky laps!  :D


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 12:00 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.
> 
> 
> 


Stupidly ambivalent. Explain how posting an UNWANTED AND UNSOLICITED
EMAIL violates the right to privacy of someone whose contact wasn't
requested or desired after they were repeatedly informed of that?

I've received emails that say "Please don't repost this info" or "For
your eyes only" or something to that effect from KNOWN contacts and I
HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE violated that trust.

Someone sending me "I want to bury my face in your lap and smell your
aroma or I'll commit suicide" (a conflation) emails despite my request
they stop? Sorry asscrack. FAIR GAME.

Rr


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 12:13 PM, Razer wrote:



> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

You've done what you've done. Others will act accordingly.




Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread John Newman


> On Oct 14, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Razer  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>> Reposting email clearly intended to be private
> 
> 
> Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info
> on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say,
> hijacked address book?
> 
> IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!
> 
> I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at
> any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending
> them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?
> 
> Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live
> and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited
> suicide notes from someone I don't even know?
> 
> Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to
> deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his
> government too?
> 
> Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her'
> recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been
> sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails

None of these other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS has seen fit to broadcast a private 
message over and over.


> she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your

So "unsecured" ?  How do you suggest the list be "secured"?  



John


> email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.
> 
> I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.
> 
> Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...
> 
> Crap.
> 
> Rr
> 



Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread juan
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:02:04 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:

> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
> > "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> > > list to begin with, 
> > 
> > 
> > Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick
> > 

Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 10:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> Reposting email clearly intended to be private


Spam mail is intended to be private too. So I shouldn't pass that info
on to a sysadmin or other person who might be spammed due to, let's say,
hijacked address book?

IOW You ARE NOT MAKING A VALID POINT!

I did not request the emails, I did not originate the conversations at
any point. I attempted to SEVERELY DISSUADE THE PERSON from sending
them. Suicide threats from someone I don't know?

Fuck that. Go kill yourself. There are people trying desperately to live
and dying for no good reason and I'm going to worry about unsolicited
suicide notes from someone I don't even know?

Maybe I should feel sorry for that esquire from Nigeria who wants to
deposit money in my bank account because he's being hounded by his
government too?

Your idea of "Private" is perverse and dysfunctional. "She" ('her'
recent spew before subsiding was very masculine in nature) has been
sending this garbage to a few other UNWILLING RECIPIENTS whose emails
she only knows because this list is so fucking unsecured it passes your
email on to... whomever. Spam email harvesters etc.

I've violated NO ONE'S privacy.

Hugs and kisses... I'd like to be in your lap right now...

Crap.

Rr



Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread rooty
hi hi jaun ;-






 Original Message 
On Oct 14, 2016, 10:59 AM, juan wrote:

On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with,


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance.


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
>

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 15:07 -0300, juan wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
> "Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> > list to begin with, 
> 
> 
>   Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread juan
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:51:00 -0500
"Shawn K. Quinn"  wrote:


> Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the
> list to begin with, 


Like your constant calls for censorship and your sick americunt
propaganda, for instance. 


> such as the explicit garbage clearly never
> intended for public consumption which I was originally replying to?
> 



Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 11:46 -0600, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> > No moderator worth his/her salt would ever have approved your posting.
> > Something to think about.
> > 
> > Reposting email clearly intended to be private is often in poor taste,
> > even if technically legal. Especially if it is explicit in nature, as
> > this one was.
> 
> Well, except that this is a totally unmoderated list. Which is a good
> thing, I believe. So it's all on Razer.

My points with that statement about a moderator were:
1. The original should never have been posted. 
2. An unmoderated list means the participants themselves are supposed to
moderate their postings, and because posts like the original are making
it on to the list anyway, clearly this is failing.

Can we agree that there's crap that never should make it on to the list
to begin with, such as the explicit garbage clearly never intended for
public consumption which I was originally replying to?

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 



Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 11:09 AM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
>> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital 

Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 11:11 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2016 09:45 AM, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 10/14/2016 09:57 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>>> On Oct 14, 2016 10:28 AM, "Razer"  wrote:

 Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
>>> person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
 Don't read it.
>>>
>>> Razer, I love Jake and he knows it very well.  I was just trying to stop
>>> your creepy public threats, which were completely off topic and very
>>> bizarre.
>>>
>>> Please, if you want to talk about Jake, talk about him,not about me,
>>> Razer.  Weirdo psycho, aff...
>>
> 
> 
>> Yeah. As I said, it's just not honorable to disclose private
>> communications. Or even privileged information obtained through private
>> communications. I learned that as a drug dealer. As an activist. When I
>> started using the Internet. As a sovereign individual.
>>
> 
> 
> This discussion happens on the street a LOT you know.
> 
> There's people who talk about people for the sake of influence peddling
> and just talking smack.
> 
> Then there are people who talk about people when the people they're
> discussing it with, typically friends, ARE IN DANGER OR POTENTIALLY
> THREATENED due to the person being discussed.

Dude, this is just a fucking public mail list. Tone down the drama!

> Police Snitching and careless talk/influence peddling people get stitches.
> 
> Sharing important intelligence with comrades does not seem to have that
> effect. You wouldn't tell one of your drug dealing comrades you
> suspected someone was a narc? If not, Why? More biz for you while the
> other dealer's sitting in jail perhaps?

I might share such information privately, if it seemed warranted. But I
wouldn't do so via insecure channels. And for sure, I wouldn't discuss
that stuff in public.

> Rr
> 
> 
>> OK, you say, but what about leaking stuff? How is that not disclosing
>> privileged information? For sure. But it's distinguishable. Leaking is
>> honorable when the subject is powerful, and is using their power to
>> injure the innocent. 
> 
> 
> PSychological trolling injures the innocent.
> 
> Let's say, for giggles because it isn't the case, that I had just ended
> a relationship and was feeling depressed and not interested in someone
> else's advances, and I was receiving mail like that?
> 
> Innocent and injured. Perhaps driven to suicide eh?
> 
> 
> Posting private messages in public, without
>> explicit permission, does not constitute leaking. It is dishonorable,
>> and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot be trusted.
>>
>> Just sayin'.
>>
> 
> Someone sending unsolicited emails, especially when they're requested to
> desist is "dishonorable and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot
> be trusted."
> 
> Rr
> 
> Ps. You said you were a drug dealer. You never learned "Don't Trust
> ANYONE"? How DID you survive? Must have been a pretty middle class circle.
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 09:45 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 09:57 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> On Oct 14, 2016 10:28 AM, "Razer"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
>> person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
>>> Don't read it.
>>
>> Razer, I love Jake and he knows it very well.  I was just trying to stop
>> your creepy public threats, which were completely off topic and very
>> bizarre.
>>
>> Please, if you want to talk about Jake, talk about him,not about me,
>> Razer.  Weirdo psycho, aff...
> 


> Yeah. As I said, it's just not honorable to disclose private
> communications. Or even privileged information obtained through private
> communications. I learned that as a drug dealer. As an activist. When I
> started using the Internet. As a sovereign individual.
> 


This discussion happens on the street a LOT you know.

There's people who talk about people for the sake of influence peddling
and just talking smack.

Then there are people who talk about people when the people they're
discussing it with, typically friends, ARE IN DANGER OR POTENTIALLY
THREATENED due to the person being discussed.

Police Snitching and careless talk/influence peddling people get stitches.

Sharing important intelligence with comrades does not seem to have that
effect. You wouldn't tell one of your drug dealing comrades you
suspected someone was a narc? If not, Why? More biz for you while the
other dealer's sitting in jail perhaps?

Rr


> OK, you say, but what about leaking stuff? How is that not disclosing
> privileged information? For sure. But it's distinguishable. Leaking is
> honorable when the subject is powerful, and is using their power to
> injure the innocent. 


PSychological trolling injures the innocent.

Let's say, for giggles because it isn't the case, that I had just ended
a relationship and was feeling depressed and not interested in someone
else's advances, and I was receiving mail like that?

Innocent and injured. Perhaps driven to suicide eh?


Posting private messages in public, without
> explicit permission, does not constitute leaking. It is dishonorable,
> and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot be trusted.
> 
> Just sayin'.
> 

Someone sending unsolicited emails, especially when they're requested to
desist is "dishonorable and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot
be trusted."

Rr

Ps. You said you were a drug dealer. You never learned "Don't Trust
ANYONE"? How DID you survive? Must have been a pretty middle class circle.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 06:34 -0700, Razer wrote:
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital 

Re: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread juan
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:34:59 -0400
John Newman  wrote:

> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  


Right. That tells you exactly what gilmore stands for. His EFF
was already and correctly seen as corrupt and useless 20 years
ago - check the archives of gilmore's original, 'own' cypherpunk
mailing list. 

Also, the amount of effort needed to learn what kind of
textbook example of unintentional self-pardoy the 'cryptography'
mailing list is, is very low. Just spend ten minutes reading the
pseudo technical garbage that gets posted to that fully censored
cesspool =)





> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John



Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread xorcist
> It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to ...

Lulz

> Or the psychological stalking by

Translation: When you call him on lies and bullshit, it's 'psychological
stalking'

..thats so full of win, I'm going to start using that. Outright lie, and
when called on it 'Hey, don't psychologically stalk me, that's rude.'

Fuck me the world is doomed.



Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 10:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>>
>> Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.
>>
> 
> Not two minutes before you sent the above quoted message, you posted a
> message saying your reply would be the last in thread. Obviously not.
> 
> But whatever. Uhm -- No, not fishing at all.  Maybe you are a senile
> 71-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously garbage.
> 
> In our first interaction on this list you made a ridiculous claim that you
> were being profiled by the government. In your words, paraphrased, since
> before they were really using computers, when things were being done with
> paper and punch cards.
> 
> As I pointed out in a private message to you, which you also then posted
> publicly here, punch cards were phased out in the 1960s.
> 
> If you were a well-connected extremely rabid 20-year-old radical in 1965,
> to make the fed's watch-list at that tender age, today you would be 71
> years old.
> 
> I don't care how old you are. It's just an observation based on the
> stupid, paranoid, ridiculous shit that you constantly say. And I'll tell
> you WHY I don't care, in the slightest, about you or any personal details
> about you:
> 
> You're an unimportant, clueless child, with a penchant for paranoia, and
> grandiose claims. You're rude, wear the term "asshole" like a badge of
> honor. This alone limits any effect, or importance you could possibly have
> to anyone, in any possible universe or social circle here on earth. You're
> nothing, and the few morsels of information or opinion that you offer that
> are worth anything, are really just pre-chewed pieces of fat gleaned from
> other sources. At best, you're the net equivalent of a talking head,
> dutifully reading off the page presented to you from somewhere else,
> trying to convince us that it has merit.
> 
> You have never had an original thought in your short little life, and
> since you obviously feed your ego mostly through the goings-on here - the
> net equivalent of scrawling graffiti in a dis-used lavatory at a random
> highway rest stop, it is quite likely that you never will have such a
> thought.
> 
> You have proudly written about how you avoid IT work, preferring other
> forms of labor out of some ideological duty -- which may be at least
> partly true, but it is just as likely, given the observations above, that
> you're just scared shitless to actually put your talents and mind to the
> test, because deep down, you wonder if you have what it takes.
> 
> That's just my opinion, off the top of my head, from what I remember of
> your nonsense.
> 
> It would be dizzingly pathetic, if it weren't so clockwork-regular like a
> fucking automaton.

That sound about right.

Thanks, bro :)


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer
On 10/14/2016 09:34 AM, John Newman responded to a troll responding to a
troll:


> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 05:52:50PM +0200, aestetix wrote:
>> Make Cypherpunks Great Again.
>>
> 
> Lulz!  I find it interesting that on John Gilmore's home page, under
> accomplishments, he says the following about the cypherpunks list:
> 
> 
> "The Cypherpunks (with Eric Hughes and Tim May)
> 
> An informal group dedicated to public education and dissemination of
> encryption (also known as cryptography, the science and art of secret
> writing). I originally hosted the mailing list (cypherpu...@toad.com)
> and provided space for the first few years' worth of meetings. A
> descendant of the mailing list is still operating; subscribe to
> cryptogra...@metzdowd.com."
> 
> No mention of the current cypherpunks list :P  
> 
> Taken from http://www.toad.com/gnu/
> 
> 
> John
> 

Whasamtter John don't like my posts about Geofeedia stalking black
activists?


It's a waste of time and bandwidth responding to trolls and the
resultant flames. I'd MUCH RATHER be posting stuff like the above and
discussing it, but I see a LOT of disruption being caused by what appear
to be one or two posters using a number of different emails and fuck you
if I can't point out the disruption. Or the psychological stalking by
someone using what appears to be a stolen identity, of quite a few
people resulting from involvement in the list.

Rr


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 09:57 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2016 10:28 AM, "Razer"  wrote:
>>
>> Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
> person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
>> Don't read it.
> 
> Razer, I love Jake and he knows it very well.  I was just trying to stop
> your creepy public threats, which were completely off topic and very
> bizarre.
> 
> Please, if you want to talk about Jake, talk about him,not about me,
> Razer.  Weirdo psycho, aff...

Yeah. As I said, it's just not honorable to disclose private
communications. Or even privileged information obtained through private
communications. I learned that as a drug dealer. As an activist. When I
started using the Internet. As a sovereign individual.

OK, you say, but what about leaking stuff? How is that not disclosing
privileged information? For sure. But it's distinguishable. Leaking is
honorable when the subject is powerful, and is using their power to
injure the innocent. Posting private messages in public, without
explicit permission, does not constitute leaking. It is dishonorable,
and it demonstrates that the perpetrator cannot be trusted.

Just sayin'.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Sorry, I've sent this message in private and forgot Razer likes only public
messages.

I will give a time and become a lurker again.  No time and patience to
waste with childish discussions.

I apologize for the last threads, full of bullshit.  Thank you for
everything and, again, pardon for all the drama.

Ceci
On Oct 14, 2016 1:19 PM, "Cecilia Tanaka"  wrote:

> On Oct 14, 2016 12:53 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
> >
> > Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>
> Stop disturbing the list, please.  The real troll is being you, Razer.
>
> > Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>
> Again:  -  You Need Psychiatric Treatment With Urgence, Razer.
>
> I swear I am not saying it to humiliate you.  I do believe you are _not_
> acting in a normal way, Razer.  See the weird things you are doing and
> writing.  It's fucking creepy, guy!  :-/
>
> Take care, dear.  Be well, please.
>
> -  c.
>


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 09:22 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>  Maybe you are a senile 1-yro after all? Because your memory is obviously 
> garbage


But... umn, whatever you want to believe troll. Yeah, I said that was my
last post in the thread. I misspoke. That's my last post addressing
'aff... CeCe' or whatever it is.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 14, 2016 1:08 PM, "Александр"  wrote:
>
> 2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :
>>
>> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>>
>> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
>> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>
>
> Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
> Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".
> *෴*

Get a life, bitch.  The discussion didn't arrive in Putin's asshole yet.
Keep licking it and don't disturb the list, slut.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Александр
2016-10-14 18:52 GMT+03:00 Razer :

> Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?
>
> Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
> stalking victims by posting that gibberish?
>

Razer, i'm sure it's the second option.
Mirmir is already deep inside her web... and now we see more and more
"Medieval Knights" who want to protect "woman's honor". The trouble is..
that there is NO woman here (in the true sense of the word) and, of course,
there is NO honor/dignity. *Just a heap of mud with the name "cici".*
*෴*


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 14, 2016 10:28 AM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
> Don't read it.

Razer, I love Jake and he knows it very well.  I was just trying to stop
your creepy public threats, which were completely off topic and very
bizarre.

Please, if you want to talk about Jake, talk about him,not about me,
Razer.  Weirdo psycho, aff...


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 08:50 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:
>> Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?
>>
>> John
> 
> There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
> is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
> private comms like this.
> 
> I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
> "chimpanzee hypothesis."
> 
> Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
> senile.
> 
> It's all very hard to tell.
> 


Fishing for an age... Wrong. Don't bother trying again.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread aestetix

Make Cypherpunks Great Again.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 03:50:01PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote:

Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?

John


There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
private comms like this.

I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
"chimpanzee hypothesis."

Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
senile.

It's all very hard to tell.



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Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 08:29 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
>>
>> I'm not some ... psychopath  
> 
> You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer. 
> 
> You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
> treatment with urgence.
> 
> We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
> evil.
> 

Is there some part of "Fuck Off" you fail to comprehend troll?

Or are you simply looking for codependent sympathy from your next
stalking victims by posting that gibberish?

Last reply on thread. Period.

Rr


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread xorcist
> Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?
>
> John

There is indeed a certain ironic quality to a list like cypherpunks, which
is supposed to be privacy-centric, to be used for public displays of
private comms like this.

I'd like to submit much of this thread as evidence for my much-debated
"chimpanzee hypothesis."

Or, Razer is - as he claims - 70-something years old, and possibly going
senile.

It's all very hard to tell.



Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread John Newman
Why the fuck did you forward this to the list?

John

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 06:34:09AM -0700, Razer wrote:
> 
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> 
> Some people like 'em nuts.
> 
> 
> I'm not interested.
> 
> Rr
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From: Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
> 
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
> 
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
> 
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
> 

-- 
John 


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Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 14, 2016 12:08 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> I'm not some ... psychopath  

You are a hysterical, very noisy and dramatic psychopath, Razer.

You are very sick.  Please, as I said before, search for psychiatric
treatment with urgence.

We both are crazy, but I only hurt myself.  You hurt other people.  It's
evil.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 14, 2016 11:57 AM, "Mirimir"  wrote:
>
> On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
> >
> > Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> >
> > Some people like 'em nuts.
> >
> >
> > I'm not interested.
> >
> > Rr
>
> You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.

Don't worry, Mirimir.  No great damages.  Now everybody knows I like
circumcised penises and mainly musky smells.  I won't die because of this
foolish.

I provoked him because I was stupid, thinking we still were friends.  Now,
I know Razer is not trustful and loves to humiliates people.  Just it.


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer


On 10/14/2016 07:57 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
>>
>> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
>>
>> Some people like 'em nuts.
>>
>>
>> I'm not interested.
>>
>> Rr
> 
> You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.


I'm an asshole in real life too. Some people consider it an adorable
quality. Others avoid me like the plague. Ask me if I REALLY give a
fuck. I'm not some corporate psychopath bagging 'friends' for future
'favors granted' (as they say in the Mafia) Your troll friend just
didn't seem to understand "Bug Off", so...

Rr

> 
>> ---- Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
>> Date:Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
>> From:Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
>> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
>> sleep, my dear.
>>
>> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
>> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
>> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
>> just to smell you...  <3
>>
>> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
>> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
>> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
>>
>> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
>> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
>>
>>


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Mirimir
On 10/14/2016 07:34 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
> 
> Some people like 'em nuts.
> 
> 
> I'm not interested.
> 
> Rr

You really are an asshole, Razer. Total slime. Scum of the earth.

>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From: Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
> 
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
> 
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
> 
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
> 
> 


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Ok, I can't make anything if Razer prefers sex with little boys and to
support Nambla.

Sorry to everybody for this public soap opera.  It's so bizarre that it
becomes funny.  I never will purr in laps of crazy hysterical guys like
Razer again, I promise.

So life goes on...  :)


Re: Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Razer, you are strange.  I am crazy, but you are crazier.  And absolutely
hysterical because don't like to lose a discussion, aff...
On Oct 14, 2016 10:34 AM, "Razer" <ray...@riseup.net> wrote:

>
> Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?
>
> Some people like 'em nuts.
>
>
> I'm not interested.
>
> Rr
>
>  Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:    Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
> From:   Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
>
>
> I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
> love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
> sleep, my dear.
>
> I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
> crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
> circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
> just to smell you...  <3
>
> Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
> nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
> Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...
>
> Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
> life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)
>
>


Fwd: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Razer, hysterical as always.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Cecilia Tanaka" <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
Date: Oct 14, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
To: "Razer" <ray...@riseup.net>

On Oct 13, 2016 11:22 PM, "Razer" <ray...@riseup.net> wrote:
>
> I haven't been "Hysterical" one day in my life.

Well, your concept of "hysterical" is certainly different from mine, my
dear Razer.  Maybe a cultural difference.  :-/

Hysterical, for me, means "marked by uncontrollable, extreme emotion" and
when a person makes a public direct threat, I suppose this person is _not_
being calm and acting in a rational way.  Here, in Brazil, it's considered
hysterical, crazy, dramatical.  Do you understand my point of view?  :-/

> I haven't subscribed you to anything,

I believe in you, Razer, but *you* gave the awesome idea in a public list,
mentioning my name and giving those lovely sites and lists as examples.
Should I thank you for it, my dear?

> and you bring your own trolling on yourself which I SAID I WASN'T
INTERESTED IN YOU DOING FOR ME TOO.
>
> That WAS the gist of my original post. Stop TROLLING my handle around for
your bot buddies to find.

Razer, you are a very intelligent man.  You know it and I always admired
your intelligence, your direct way of speaking about your own believes,
your sincerity.

So why the fuck you simply didn't ask me in private to avoid mention your
name in my messages, explaining the reasons, instead making a creepy and
dramatic public threat?

The passional Nipo-Latin here is me, not you!  My Jew boyfriend was very
sweet, but extremely rational.  Guy, you studied a lot for being fair and
rational!  Let the passion thing for me, a Latin girl, please!  :P

Man, that message was insane!  I was in doubt if you were joking with me or
really threating me in public.  Please, be very *clear* in the next
messages and avoid these bizarre misunderstandings!

You always had the most complete freedom to say me everything you wanted in
private or in public.  You could simply say something like "Fuck you,
Ceci!  Stop talking to trolls!"  or  "Never say Razer in vain, because all
the holy books (or whatever) say it's forbidden, a mortal sin!"...

Shit, I love you.  Why would I ignore your asking?  You hurt me a lot just
because you did want it.  So, please, let me in peace.  I need a time for
healing.

Kisses, my dear.  Sleep well and have sweet dreams.


Fwd: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Ok, tell the whole story at least.  Who did contact me in private first?
Do you want I send all the past messages too?
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Cecilia Tanaka" <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>
Date: Oct 13, 2016 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
To: "Razer" <ray...@riseup.net>

My dear Razer,

Being sincere, after your hysteric attack  (aka "direct threat"),  all the
trolls and haters of the cypherpunks list love us both.  And rooty is not a
bot, it's just a creepy, retard teenager, provoking some persons for the
lulz.  Search better, hard headed.

I already received some strange messages as courtesy of your lovely public
suggestions.  If you won't subscribe me on bizarre mailings, someone will
do it pretending to be you.  Should I thank you, my dear?

Congratulations, you humiliated me in public and fucked my e-mail
address...  Are you happy now?  Did you have orgasms knowing I would cry
and feel broken hearted, betrayed, exposed?

You got all the attentions today like an amazing rock star and exposed me
and the private messages sent by Mirimir.  You showed your true colors.
You are not a trustful person and I am disappointed.

I always admired you a lot, but now I will never trust in you again.  I
loved you, your messages, your humanity, your intelligence, everything.
Now, please, forget my "fake existence" and never write to me again.

You hurt me much more than imagine and simply don't care if I am well or
not, you just want to prove me that you are right, that never are wrong.
You wrote me in private just to hurt me again.  More and more drama.  Do
you think it is normal?  Maybe in USA, but here, in my country, it's pretty
bizarre.

We both need silence, taking a time for rest and thinking better.  Too much
noise, I am wasted and fucking sad.

Look, I love you, Razer, but like happened with my last kitten, which I
loved very much, our convivence is not possible.  He pooped in my books,
you pooped in my feelings.

Take care and be happy, my love.  When you are not being neurotic and
kicking the wrong person, you are a lovely, very dear guy.

Kisses and hugs from Brazil.

-  c.

PS:  -  Do you know why I never had children alone?  Love.  Fear for
them...

"You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion'
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud.

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins."

('Masters of War' - Bob Dylan)
On Oct 13, 2016 9:55 PM, "Razer" <ray...@riseup.net> wrote:

>
> Here... Talk to the bot... It likes you.
>
> afff... afff...
>
> Rr
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Re: Jake and Tor article
> Date:   Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:19:07 -0400
> From:   rooty <arpsp...@protonmail.com>
> Reply-To:   rooty <arpsp...@protonmail.com>
> To: cpunks <cypherpu...@cpunks.org>
>
>
>
> thank you me me and sea sea - rr is leaking oil badly the trick below
> has been dead for years  and just doesnt work -
>
> .
>
>
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: Re: Jake and Tor article
> > Local Time: October 13, 2016 9:27 AM
> > UTC Time: October 13, 2016 4:27 PM
> > From: miri...@riseup.net
> > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org
> >
> > On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> > > Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> > > up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> > > REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> > > White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> > > Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
> > >
> > > That's a direct threat.
> >
> > Maybe chill some, bro?
> >
> >
>
>


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer
Sound like information suppression to me... Jacob Appelbaum is a 'public
person' and subject to conversation, and he expects it. Don't like it?
Don't read it.

Rr

On 10/13/2016 09:04 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> Please, guys, let's kill this thread forever.  Sorry, this discussion is
> _not_ healthy.  It was harmful to some persons, in special for me.
> 
> I do love 'He-who-must-not-be-named-but-is-not-Lord-Voldermort' and it's
> everything ok now.  No panic, no towels needed.
> 
> Much love, good night kisses and sweet dreams wishes for all of you...  <3
> 
> "Brahms Lullaby"
> 
> http://youtu.be/gsFQcQKWgTQ
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, in the skies stars are bright.
> May the moon's silvery beams bring you sweet dreams.
> Close your eyes now and rest, may these hours be blessed.
> 'Til the sky's bright with dawn, when you wake with a yawn.
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
> I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.
> 
> Sleepyhead, close your eyes, for I'm right beside you.
> Guardian angels are near, so sleep without fear.
> Lullaby, and good night, with roses bedight.
> Lilies o'er head, lay thee down in thy bed.
> 
> Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
> I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.
> 
> Lullaby, and sleep tight, my darling sleeping.
> On sheets white as cream, with a head full of dreams.
> Sleepyhead, close your eyes, I'm right beside you.
> Lay thee down now and rest, may your slumber be blessed.
> 
> Go to sleep, little one, think of puppies and kittens.
> Go to sleep, little one, think of butterflies in spring.
> Go to sleep, little one, think of sunny bright mornings.
> Hush, darling one, sleep through the night,
> Sleep through the night,
> Sleep through the night.
> 


Fwd: [unwanted offlist mail] Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-14 Thread Razer

Anyone wanna 'grab a digital pussy'?

Some people like 'em nuts.


I'm not interested.

Rr

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: It's for YOU! Fwd: Re: Jake and Tor article
Date:   Fri, 14 Oct 2016 02:09:30 -0300
From:   Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com>


I am really wasted, exhausted, breathing bad, but wanted to say *I do
love you* before trying to sleep.  Wish you lovely dreams and a restful
sleep, my dear.

I am not flirting with you, but I still think you are sexy.  Completely
crazy, stubborn, but charming, seem have a deliciously manly smell and a
circumcised penis.  Puuurrr...  Meow!  Would love to be in your lap now
just to smell you...  <3

Intelligence is always sexy and I love circumcised penis.  It would very
nice if you could be a pain in my ass, not in my neck.  Nothing is more
Latin than hot, wild sex after stupid discussions, hmm...

Kisses and snugglehugs, sweetie.  You are crazy, I am crazier...  So
life goes on, hihi...  Fool!  :)



Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Please, guys, let's kill this thread forever.  Sorry, this discussion is
_not_ healthy.  It was harmful to some persons, in special for me.

I do love 'He-who-must-not-be-named-but-is-not-Lord-Voldermort' and it's
everything ok now.  No panic, no towels needed.

Much love, good night kisses and sweet dreams wishes for all of you...  <3

"Brahms Lullaby"

http://youtu.be/gsFQcQKWgTQ

Lullaby, and good night, in the skies stars are bright.
May the moon's silvery beams bring you sweet dreams.
Close your eyes now and rest, may these hours be blessed.
'Til the sky's bright with dawn, when you wake with a yawn.

Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.

Sleepyhead, close your eyes, for I'm right beside you.
Guardian angels are near, so sleep without fear.
Lullaby, and good night, with roses bedight.
Lilies o'er head, lay thee down in thy bed.

Lullaby, and good night, you are mother's delight.
I'll protect you from harm, and you'll wake in my arms.

Lullaby, and sleep tight, my darling sleeping.
On sheets white as cream, with a head full of dreams.
Sleepyhead, close your eyes, I'm right beside you.
Lay thee down now and rest, may your slumber be blessed.

Go to sleep, little one, think of puppies and kittens.
Go to sleep, little one, think of butterflies in spring.
Go to sleep, little one, think of sunny bright mornings.
Hush, darling one, sleep through the night,
Sleep through the night,
Sleep through the night.


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread xorcist
> CYBERSECURITY. When someone starts trolling for my psychological soft
> spots under what I believe is a stolen identity, and invites a troll or
> bot (rooty) posting shit like

Trolling for psychological soft spots? On a list? I don't know, but I
don't think that would be very effective. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't
think the recon is done that way. Seems much more effective to leech
facebook and gmail for that sort of stuff.

If you, or others on the list are having serious suspicions to this effect..
Look for that sort of thing in your personal life. Text/online comms are
wholly prone to miscommunication / misinterpretation. Look at real life.
People at your job, and acquaintances with no loyalty to you would be the
first round of recruits. Especially look for acquaintances that suddenly
drop contact with you. They are folks that decided not to get involved and
are choosing to stay away. Misinformation is then spread to test/break the
loyalty of those closer to you. Maybe they need a bit of pressure too,
etc.

Not a fun scene if you experience it, until you get your bearings. Then it
can be immensely fun. Treat it as a game. Most importantly? Fake the soft
spots. Lies are your weapon, and being able to not flinch your main
shield. When you find someone gauging you, testing this or that wrongly,
fake discomfort, and try to keep a level of calm and be stone-faced or
non-chalant with anything else.

Basic misinformation on your part. Then you can shake THEM up easily down
the road by just shrugging off what they think should cause discomfort,
and subtly calling them out.

Feed their lies, basically. If they get something wrong, and you feed them
that it is right, it is very confusing for them and it helps act as a type
of "marker" for you to spot them in the future. Be off-puttingly friendly.
 Occasionally switch gears rapidly, with a subtle/vague threat/insult.
Fucks up the whole game plan on their part.

They build up a model trying to predict your reactions and behaviors. Blow
the expectations, and try to be more or less erratic. That will draw them
out if you're under any type of real surveillance.

Just a loose set of guidelines. YMMV, depending on who you're running into.



Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer


On 10/13/2016 01:45 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/13/2016 12:55 PM, Razer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2016 11:13 AM, Mirimir wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2016 11:27 AM, Razer wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Don't write to me off-list.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Aww butthurt.
> 
> No. It's very simple. You don't respect the distinction between private
> and public messages. Given that, I will no longer reply substantively to
> private messages from you. And so there's no point in sending them.


I don't believe I've ever originated an offlist convo here.

Surely your confusing me with someone else.

Rr

> 
>> You contacted me first to dun me offlist.
>>
>> Don't waste my time.
>>
>> Rr
>>


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread John Newman

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Razer  wrote:
> 
> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
> 
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
> 
> That's a direct threat.
> 

A DIRECT THREAT!!! scary :O


John
> 
> 
>> On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty" > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>>> 
>>> affim not clicking the link
>> 
>> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
>> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
>> imagine it.  :)
>> 
>> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
>> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread rooty
thank you me me and sea sea - rr is leaking oil badly the trick below has been 
dead for years and just doesnt work -


.



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Jake and Tor article
Local Time: October 13, 2016 9:27 AM
UTC Time: October 13, 2016 4:27 PM
From: miri...@riseup.net
To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org

On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
>
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>
> That's a direct threat.

Maybe chill some, bro?

Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 13, 2016 3:50 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> On 10/13/2016 11:30 AM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote garbage having nothing to
do with anything:

Razer,

Sorry, you need psychiatric treatment with urgence.  You are hysteric, very
disturbed and the list certainly is loving your little show, but I am
hating it.  Everybody here appreciates a lot neurotic and sick people, ego
trips, offenses and stupid messages, but it is being too much.  Stop it,
please.

You send a lot of garbage to the list, but are too presumptuous to admiss
it.

"Stolen identity", aff...  Very smart.  My friend was a Sherlock Holmes and
I didn't know.  Why don't you send your CV to NSA or CIA?  They always need
bright agents there.

Any stupid noob can verify who I am, Razer.  It isn't so hard.  Do you need
help with the searches?

>>  "Cecilia", who despite suicide threats to me offlist still seems very
much alive, 

I seem very much alive because I am very much alive, my dear Razer.  With a
little pneumonia again, but my health never was my best quality and I will
be completely ok in 10 days, I think.  Don't worry, you are almost twice
older than me, but I certainly will die before you.

Months ago, I really loved and trusted you a lot and was just saying good
bye before killing myself.  I did it with some of my friends who live far
away from here.  Only three persons of this list received my desperate good
bye messages.  You were one of them and I choose very bad, because I
respected you a lot.

My really loved ones, my family and those friends for whom I would go to
Hell millions of times, searching for a lost Eurydice who never will be
there, would receive a letter and a music after my death.  Talking with
them would change everything and I had no courage to finish...  well, you
understood.

If you really think I am a fake profile, ask to Brazilian Law Bar
Association.  Here the name is 'OAB - Ordem dos Advogados do Brasil'.  You
can ask about me to some activists here and in San Francisco.  Deleted my
Facebook account.  Don't try to stalk me there like Zen already did, please.

If you have 50 bucks to waste with Nambla or similar garbage institution,
donate them to charity and give me this bundle as gift.  I love craft arts
and I will use these books with children, but not the Nambla's way, ugh!
Halloween is always fun and I love Make Magazines and Books!  Comfortable
reading and maker dreams, aww...  <3

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cosplay-book-bundle?mcID=102:57fbf6d36c87661331227d2d:ot:57f00e9db42ee742d1da8f85:1_source=Humble+Bundle+Newsletter_medium=email_campaign=2016_10_12_Cosplay_Books_Bundle=57fe7a4b2004d48d748b456a_content=cta_button

Ok, you exposed me in public to humiliate me.  Are you happy now, feeling
better?  Would you like I try the suicide again?  Oh...  Sorry, I am not
breathing well in the moment and it will be very hard to climb your huge
ego to jump off there, aff...  :P

I love you, but the same way I used to love my last kitten.  He always
pooped in my Tributary Law books.  Only in the expensive ones, son of a bad
cat!  >:(

Take care and be well, Razer.  I never will write to you in private again
and I will ignore all your messages on this list.  You will be considered
spam like Zen, Alex, rooty, justa and this kind of people.  Please, ignore
me too.  I don't exist for you.  I am a fake profile created years ago,
just to annoy you in the future.

Cecilia Tanaka


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Mirimir
On 10/13/2016 12:55 PM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/13/2016 11:13 AM, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 10/13/2016 11:27 AM, Razer wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Don't write to me off-list.
>>
>>
> 
> Aww butthurt.

No. It's very simple. You don't respect the distinction between private
and public messages. Given that, I will no longer reply substantively to
private messages from you. And so there's no point in sending them.

> You contacted me first to dun me offlist.
> 
> Don't waste my time.
> 
> Rr
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer


On 10/13/2016 11:13 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/13/2016 11:27 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Don't write to me off-list.
> 
> 

Aww butthurt.

You contacted me first to dun me offlist.

Don't waste my time.

Rr


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer


On 10/13/2016 11:30 AM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote garbage having nothing to
do with anything:

> Mirimir, my love, thank you very much for your kind intervention, but
> please just relax and forget all this discussion.  Too much ado about
> nothing, dear.  ;)
> 
> I really don't care about this kind of childish menace.  I don't respect
> coward people and I don't have patience with brats, too pampered kids.
> 
>   thinks that his shit stinks less than mine, what is very usual in
> North-American ego trips.  It isn't true.  It's excrement the same way.
> 
> Fifty bucks is "cheap" for him, a white, male, North-American.  For a
> Brazilian woman is not a so low value and I prefer to donate my money to
> good institutions, that I really respect and trust.  'Nambla' is his
> choice, not mine.
> 
> I always loved  very much, but the next time I try the suicide, I
> will climb his ego and jump, aff...  It will certainly be more fatal
> than jump off the Golden Gate Bridge!  (+-+)*
> 
> Please,  , try to rest a bit, eat something and keep hydrated. 
> Consider sex/masturbation, chocolate and probiotic yogurt.  Your mood is
> really bad today, aff...  :-/
> 
> Kisses and hugs, my dear.  I love you very much *when you are not
> kicking me*.  Instead donate cash to Nambla, kick them, not me.  They
> are the bad guys, not me.
> 
> Ceci
> 
> On Oct 13, 2016 2:18 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
>>
>> On 10/13/2016 10:06 AM, Mirimir opined:
>>
>>
>> > It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
>> > you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "just a fucking email list".
>>
>> There IS such a thing as 'waste of bandwidth'.
>>
>> But I guess that depends on your perspective.
>>
>> Rr.
>>
>>
>> > On 10/13/2016 10:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/13/2016 09:27 AM, Mirimir wrote:
>> >>> On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>>  Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com 
>> 
>>  I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the
> list,
>>  up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
>>  REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to
> every
>>  White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working
> on the
>>  Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>> 
>>  That's a direct threat.
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe chill some, bro?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Should I have just done that without warning first?
>> >>
>> >> http://nambla.org/joinxb.pdf
>> >>
>> >> $50 bucks a year outside the US... Cheap.
>> >>
>> >> Rr
>> >
>> > It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer


On 10/13/2016 11:11 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/13/2016 11:18 AM, Razer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2016 10:06 AM, Mirimir opined:
>>
>>
>>> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
>>> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
>>
>>
>> There is no such thing as "just a fucking email list".
>>
>> There IS such a thing as 'waste of bandwidth'.
>>
>> But I guess that depends on your perspective.
>>
>> Rr.
> 
> WTF? You sent that to me off-list, and then replied to the list.
> 
> That's fucked up.


Trolls on lists are fucked up.

CYBERSECURITY. When someone starts trolling for my psychological soft
spots under what I believe is a stolen identity, and invites a troll or
bot (rooty) posting shit like


> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
> 
> affim not clicking the link


and:

> aff..


To another trollbot, justa, and then "Cecilia", who despite suicide
threats to me offlist still seems very much alive, 'tags' me for the
bot's searching pleasure I figure the I am, if not the list, being
attacked, and I think it deserves to be put out in the public.

Or maybe you LIKE receiving utter garbagemail and spam?

Rr

> 
>>> On 10/13/2016 10:42 AM, Razer wrote:


 On 10/13/2016 09:27 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
>>
>> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
>> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
>> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
>> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
>> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>>
>> That's a direct threat.
>
> Maybe chill some, bro?


 Should I have just done that without warning first?

 http://nambla.org/joinxb.pdf

 $50 bucks a year outside the US... Cheap.

 Rr
>>>
>>> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
>>> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
>>>
>>>
>> On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>>> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty" >> > wrote:

 aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!

 affim not clicking the link
>>>
>>> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
>>> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
>>> imagine it.  :)
>>>
>>> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
>>>
>>

>>


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Mirimir, my love, thank you very much for your kind intervention, but
please just relax and forget all this discussion.  Too much ado about
nothing, dear.  ;)

I really don't care about this kind of childish menace.  I don't respect
coward people and I don't have patience with brats, too pampered kids.

Razer thinks that his shit stinks less than mine, what is very usual in
North-American ego trips.  It isn't true.  It's excrement the same way.

Fifty bucks is "cheap" for him, a white, male, North-American.  For a
Brazilian woman is not a so low value and I prefer to donate my money to
good institutions, that I really respect and trust.  'Nambla' is his
choice, not mine.

I always loved Razer very much, but the next time I try the suicide, I will
climb his ego and jump, aff...  It will certainly be more fatal than jump
off the Golden Gate Bridge!  (+-+)*

Please, Razer, try to rest a bit, eat something and keep hydrated.
Consider sex/masturbation, chocolate and probiotic yogurt.  Your mood is
really bad today, aff...  :-/

Kisses and hugs, my dear.  I love you very much *when you are not kicking
me*.  Instead donate cash to Nambla, kick them, not me.  They are the bad
guys, not me.

Ceci

On Oct 13, 2016 2:18 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> On 10/13/2016 10:06 AM, Mirimir opined:
>
>
> > It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
> > you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
>
>
> There is no such thing as "just a fucking email list".
>
> There IS such a thing as 'waste of bandwidth'.
>
> But I guess that depends on your perspective.
>
> Rr.
>
>
> > On 10/13/2016 10:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/13/2016 09:27 AM, Mirimir wrote:
> >>> On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>  Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
> 
>  I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the
list,
>  up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
>  REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to
every
>  White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on
the
>  Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
> 
>  That's a direct threat.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe chill some, bro?
> >>
> >>
> >> Should I have just done that without warning first?
> >>
> >> http://nambla.org/joinxb.pdf
> >>
> >> $50 bucks a year outside the US... Cheap.
> >>
> >> Rr
> >
> > It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Mirimir
On 10/13/2016 11:18 AM, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/13/2016 10:06 AM, Mirimir opined:
> 
> 
>> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
>> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
> 
> 
> There is no such thing as "just a fucking email list".
> 
> There IS such a thing as 'waste of bandwidth'.
> 
> But I guess that depends on your perspective.
> 
> Rr.

WTF? You sent that to me off-list, and then replied to the list.

That's fucked up.

>> On 10/13/2016 10:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/13/2016 09:27 AM, Mirimir wrote:
 On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
>
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>
> That's a direct threat.

 Maybe chill some, bro?
>>>
>>>
>>> Should I have just done that without warning first?
>>>
>>> http://nambla.org/joinxb.pdf
>>>
>>> $50 bucks a year outside the US... Cheap.
>>>
>>> Rr
>>
>> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
>> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
>>
>>
> On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty" > > wrote:
>>>
>>> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>>>
>>> affim not clicking the link
>>
>> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
>> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
>> imagine it.  :)
>>
>> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
>>
>
>>>
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer


On 10/13/2016 10:06 AM, Mirimir opined:


> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.


There is no such thing as "just a fucking email list".

There IS such a thing as 'waste of bandwidth'.

But I guess that depends on your perspective.

Rr.


> On 10/13/2016 10:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/13/2016 09:27 AM, Mirimir wrote:
>>> On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
 Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com

 I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
 up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
 REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
 White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
 Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?

 That's a direct threat.
>>>
>>> Maybe chill some, bro?
>>
>>
>> Should I have just done that without warning first?
>>
>> http://nambla.org/joinxb.pdf
>>
>> $50 bucks a year outside the US... Cheap.
>>
>> Rr
> 
> It was just such a juvenile thing to say. And I don't even get what
> you're upset about. It's just a fucking email list.
> 
> 
 On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty"  > wrote:
>>
>> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>>
>> affim not clicking the link
>
> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
> imagine it.  :)
>
> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
>

>>


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 13, 2016 11:42 AM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
>
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list, up
for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD REASON in
the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every White
Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>
> That's a direct threat.

=

Scientists say the Universe is made up with neutrons, protons and
electrons.  They obviously forgot to mention morons too.  :P

Ok, I am a moron.  Now, my dear, why so much hate in this little heart
today?  :)

First of all, sorry, but it's obvious that the mentioned choices  - "White
Supremacist lists", "Misogynist sites" and "Nambla" -  have much more your
profile than mine...  :P

1)  I am _not_ a Caucasian male like you.  The White Supremacists don't
like "yellow people", poor "Japs" girls who live in the Third World like
me.  Snif, snif...  I feel so rejected for the nazi bad guys...  :'(

2)  You have problems to accept the GLBTQ rights, not me.  I accept and
support all of them.  You can confirm it with all the rainbows in the sky,
la la la!  :)

3)  And about little boys and little girls, yes, you are right, my dear.  I
love them very much.  I used to be a baby sitter when were a very young
student and, well, I always wanted to be a mother, but I had no much luck
and just became a cute auntie for my friend's kids.  Not an "imperial
auntie" like you.  Just the single girl who buys candies, toys, tells bed
time stories with happy endings and sings old lullabies...

But if you really want to act like an angry teenager, no problem, I can do
exactly the same and better than you, dear.  You do know it.  My English is
a disaster, but I am fluent in Moron, Troll, Cecilian and several strange
dialets.  :)

I certainly have less free time in my hands than you, but I don't like
unfair public threats, Razer.  Less drama, please.  Grown up and act like
an adult man.  Or, at least, eat chocolate or take a probiotic yogurt.  Bad
mood is boring!  :(

It was just to ask me to avoid mention your sacrated name in vain.  More
easy, less unpleasent for everybody...  Aff, men are always more dramatic
than women...  So much useless noise, bah...  :(

Well, I love you.  If you annoy me again, I will say your name three
times.  It works with Beetlejuice and Bloody Mary.  If I do it, you will be
in the Banana Republic and I bet you don't dance samba!  :D

http://youtu.be/KHJLm6WNEv4

"Come on and sing the Chica Chica Boom Chic / That crazy thing, the Chica
Chica Boom Chic / Brazilians found the Chica Chica Boom Chic / They like
the sound of Chica Chica Boom Chic…"
On Oct 13, 2016 11:42 AM, "Razer"  wrote:

> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
>
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
>
> That's a direct threat.
>
>
>
> On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> > On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty"  > > wrote:
> >>
> >> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
> >>
> >> affim not clicking the link
> >
> > Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
> > unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
> > imagine it.  :)
> >
> > Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
> >
>


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Mirimir
On 10/13/2016 08:42 AM, Razer wrote:
> Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com
> 
> I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
> up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
> REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
> White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
> Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?
> 
> That's a direct threat.

Maybe chill some, bro?

> On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty" > > wrote:
>>>
>>> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>>>
>>> affim not clicking the link
>>
>> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
>> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
>> imagine it.  :)
>>
>> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
>>
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-13 Thread Razer
Cc: cecilia.tan...@gmail.com

I'll tell ya what Cecilia. If you don't stop setting me, and the list,
up for spam by using the spammer's handle and my handle FOR NO GOOD
REASON in the same emails ... I'm gonna start subscribing you to every
White Supremacist newsletter I can find. Then I'll start working on the
Misogynist Sites. Then... Nambla. Maybe you like little boys eh?

That's a direct threat.



On 10/12/2016 10:48 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty"  > wrote:
>>
>> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>>
>> affim not clicking the link
> 
> Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive
> unicorn doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to
> imagine it.  :)
> 
> Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)
> 


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 12, 2016 9:04 PM, "rooty"  wrote:
>
> aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!
>
> affim not clicking the link

Razer's unicorn is polite and uses the toilet seat.  A subversive unicorn
doesn't care about it.  You don't need to click the link to imagine it.  :)

Yep, Rr (Razer) is _not_ Georgi.  Did you discover it now?  ;)


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread rooty
aff what is a Subversive Unicorn? Btw rr is NOT geOrgII for sure!

affim not clicking the link



 Original Message 
On Oct 12, 2016, 12:53 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:

Thanks, cool!

On 10/12/16 11:15 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Oct 12, 2016 12:21 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

Now rooty will create a new conspiracy theory with the subject "Razer = juan" 
and the dramatic advertency "You have been warned", aff... :(

* Bonus Hahaha!! - 
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/5-or-how-to-laugh-online-in-other-languages/266175/

* Bonus Subversive Unicorn: - 
https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-pooping-unicorn-smiling-rainbow-sky-image39768836

Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread Stephen D. Williams
Thanks, cool!

On 10/12/16 11:15 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>
> On Oct 12, 2016 12:21 PM, "Razer"  > wrote:
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
>
> Now rooty will create a new conspiracy theory with the subject  "Razer = 
> juan" and the dramatic advertency "You have been warned",
> aff...  :(
>
> *  Bonus Hahaha!!  -  
> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/5-or-how-to-laugh-online-in-other-languages/266175/
>
> *  Bonus Subversive Unicorn:  -  
> https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-pooping-unicorn-smiling-rainbow-sky-image39768836
>




Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 12, 2016 12:21 PM, "Razer"  wrote:
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

Now rooty will create a new conspiracy theory with the subject  "Razer =
juan" and the dramatic advertency "You have been warned", aff...  :(

*  Bonus Hahaha!!  -
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/12/5-or-how-to-laugh-online-in-other-languages/266175/

*  Bonus Subversive Unicorn:  -
https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-pooping-unicorn-smiling-rainbow-sky-image39768836


Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread juan
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 08:20:22 -0700
Razer  wrote:

> HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
> 
> "Violet Blue Journalist"?
> 
> Her last Medium post was in June and starts off waxing ecstatic about
> all the publicity she was getting.
> https://medium.com/@violetblue/but-he-does-good-work-6710df9d9029#.aui1mzcmb
> 
> This Guardian article has nothing new whatsoever and is just an
> attempt to stir shit. Which IS pretty much what the Guardian's turned
> into over the last few years.


the graudian was half decent when they published some stuff
from assange and  were apparently opposing surveillance. That
lasted for a couple of years at best? Before that the graudian
was nothing but a propaganda outlet for left-wing fascism. And
now it's again nothing but a propaganda outleft for left-wing
fascism.

As a note of sorts to self I thought the graudian was a
relatively new mafia, but according to wikitrash its history
goes back to 1821, when it was as far as I can tell
'classicaly' liberal (or 'libertarian') leaning. 





> 
> Also note she claimed:
> "I was standing with my Chronicle editor, Eve Batey, when Jake told
> the group he fucked the models, and that he’d ejaculate under or
> around the desk of someone he didn’t like. He joked, “Don’t drop your
> muffin, buddy!” And that’s when Eve and I bailed out."
> 
> Funny how there hasn't been a peep from Batey about this.
> 
> Rr
> 
> On 10/12/2016 03:59 AM, Henry Rivera wrote:
> > In the popular press:
> > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/jacob-appelbaum-tor-project-sexual-assault-allegations



Re: Jake and Tor article

2016-10-12 Thread Razer
HAHAHAHAHAHJHHA! ((espanol) JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!

"Violet Blue Journalist"?

Her last Medium post was in June and starts off waxing ecstatic about
all the publicity she was getting.
https://medium.com/@violetblue/but-he-does-good-work-6710df9d9029#.aui1mzcmb

This Guardian article has nothing new whatsoever and is just an attempt
to stir shit. Which IS pretty much what the Guardian's turned into over
the last few years.

Also note she claimed:
"I was standing with my Chronicle editor, Eve Batey, when Jake told the
group he fucked the models, and that he’d ejaculate under or around the
desk of someone he didn’t like. He joked, “Don’t drop your muffin,
buddy!” And that’s when Eve and I bailed out."

Funny how there hasn't been a peep from Batey about this.

Rr

On 10/12/2016 03:59 AM, Henry Rivera wrote:
> In the popular press:
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/11/jacob-appelbaum-tor-project-sexual-assault-allegations