Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On 02/13/2018 06:27 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> Nothing can be said that is new. Only the actions taken.
> 
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/18/atm_purchase/
> 
>> Four out of five cash machines still run Win XP or Win XP Embedded.

And the remaining one out of five probably still runs Windows
"something-else".

Is there really a reason that an ATM needs to run anything resembling a
full-fledged computer operating system? How about something designed,
from the ground up, to be as secure as a well-designed ATM should be?

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Shawn K. Quinn 
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Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

[Ryan Carboni]

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Not Real  wrote:

> These tools are making their way around. A few weeks ago I got offered to
> make a free 100 usd outside a walmart. Open an account, get it to retrieve
> money, then they would "cause an error in the machine", and have it spit
> all the money.
>
> As far as I know they only targeted Bank of America, might be something
> particular with those machines.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Ryan Carboni  wrote:
>
>> For some unknown reason, ATMs are not mandated to have military-grade
>> cybersecurity.
>> Since apparently rogue technicians can access them and have them release
>> all their cash.
>> I live in the worst of all possible imaginable worlds, at least if decent
>> things were denied to people because they didn't exist or because they were
>> too poor, that would be one thing.
>> It's another if banks don't care about their own money.
>>
>
>
Nothing can be said that is new. Only the actions taken.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/18/atm_purchase/

> Four out of five cash machines still run Win XP or Win XP Embedded.

Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

[Not Real]

These tools are making their way around. A few weeks ago I got offered to
make a free 100 usd outside a walmart. Open an account, get it to retrieve
money, then they would "cause an error in the machine", and have it spit
all the money.

As far as I know they only targeted Bank of America, might be something
particular with those machines.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Ryan Carboni  wrote:

> For some unknown reason, ATMs are not mandated to have military-grade
> cybersecurity.
> Since apparently rogue technicians can access them and have them release
> all their cash.
> I live in the worst of all possible imaginable worlds, at least if decent
> things were denied to people because they didn't exist or because they were
> too poor, that would be one thing.
> It's another if banks don't care about their own money.
>