Re: alex jones
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 4:47 PM professor rat wrote: > Then as for those - like ' *Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 ' that oppose > technology. Here's one real easy way for them to * > > *directly oppose technology.* > > *GET OFF THE INTERNET.* > As a submissive anarchoprimitivist trying to live an air-gapped life, this was incredibly helpful and lasted many hours. I might be willing to pay you to yell this at me more.
Re: alex jones
On 11/11/20, professor rat tried to write: > [blank] Quit fucking posting BOLD HTML-ized double bloating the list, and sending broken links. Turn off your fucking HTML mail setting.
Re: Alex Jones was -not- the first to be banned -- Re: USA 2020 Elections: Thread
TDS was a year earlier, and was focused more on it's thing... versus say more generally on future of general freedom regarding globalism / Left, for which censorship, control, etc are more central. That, plus a whole lot more subs (TDS was primarily a text website rather than operating a video channel on the biggest social media platforms), is what made IW's banning more relavant as an example "first". Regardless, TDS event was notable. And both TDS and IW were preceded by other precedents over the decades that never really made much news [1], in part because alternative social / news media hadn't really developed yet, let alone begun to consider whatever its role should be in covering and defending such events to help strengthen itself as a whole. [1] xs4all was a pretty big one. > selling You can thank demonetization for needing to resort to that. Bonus is gigamedia with its advert data partners get cut out. Cryptocurrency adoption will eventually reduce the sleaze factor. > it's the principle of it! When a service calls itself You-Tube and claims to not be Evil, then turns out to be a FuckYou-Tube doing shadowy shit, all speech is speech.
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:06:27AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > https://www.infowars.com/ > https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones > https://www.pscp.tv/u/11929682 > > Long time pundit Alex Jones censored off of > Youtube, Facebook, Apple, Stitcher, Spotify... > > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/952p5y/youtube_bans_infowars_alex_jones_for_spewing_hate/ > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/951ev2/facebook_itunes_and_spotify_drop_infowars/ > > > First they came for Assange, > Then they came for Jones... The Alex Jones shoah continues - now he's been kicked off PayPal, and the smell of blood will probably draw the knife from Visa and Mastercard: Alex Jones Gets Banned from PayPal for Spreading “Hate” https://dailystormer.name/alex-jones-gets-banned-from-paypal-for-spreading-hate/ Once this shoah-ing of the Huwaite goy is about done, the question is will we ever get reparations from the Jews? Could enough regular white sheep become so woke they claim this ground (the White shoah) as sufficient to wipe the debt slate and start again - this time without the Sanhedrin at the top of the pyramid? One hopes...
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 04:23:25 + CANNON wrote: > On 08/10/2018 09:22 PM, juan wrote: > > > > half of americans are right wing fascists and so pro trump, while the > > other half are left wing fascists so pro obomba. Which tells you that trump > > is a as evil as obomba or any other psycho at the top of the US govt. > > > > In what way are americans whom voted for Trump fascists? What has Trump done > that is bad? I really am curious. > Thank you for your input. What has trump done to alter the basic fascist nature of american government? Closed down the military industrial complex? Put the wall street bankers where they belong (jail for life). Ended all the american nazi wars, closed all the american military bases worlwide? Paid restitution to the millions of victims of american nazi wars? Ended the 'war on drugs'? Freed the millions of people jailed for victimless crimes? Paid restitution to those people? Ended the countless privileges and regulations that benefit huge business, including key mercantilistic garbage like so called 'intelectual property'? Closed down all 'public' 'education' (a shinning example of socialism by the way) I could go on for a while but it's pointless if you don't grasp or deny the highly criminal nature of the US government and the fact that the US democracy is based on a one party system with two identical factions, one painted 'blue' and the other painted 'red'.
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On 08/10/2018 09:22 PM, juan wrote: > > half of americans are right wing fascists and so pro trump, while the > other half are left wing fascists so pro obomba. Which tells you that trump > is a as evil as obomba or any other psycho at the top of the US govt. > In what way are americans whom voted for Trump fascists? What has Trump done that is bad? I really am curious. Thank you for your input.
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 02:15:03 + CANNON wrote: > > As for the recent censorship in the USA. It is the same media that > is waging war against Trump, that is also silencing InfoWars. is it? I don't think facebook google apple twitter and the like waged any 'war' against trump - that's why he got elected. And I doubt they are doing it now. More like, facebook google apple and co. are the 'private' arm of the NSA so they are trump's number one ally. > And > Trump is really not a bad evil person of course he is. > like the controlled > mainstream American media is trying to frame him up as. The > controlled propaganda machine is trying to falsely make it seem > that most Americans are anti-Trump (not true), half of americans are right wing fascists and so pro trump, while the other half are left wing fascists so pro obomba. Which tells you that trump is a as evil as obomba or any other psycho at the top of the US govt. > and that Trump > is racist of course he's racist like a vast majority of white americans > or a Russian spy, not a russian spy, that's the sort of nonsense that 'liberals' believe. But trump is more loyal to putin or any other govt than to his own subjects. That's how government works. > or a horrible person (none of which > are true either). of course anybody with any degree of political power is a horrible person. > > America is so divided right now, and is split between two groups > of people at the moment. This terminology that describes these two > sides might have different definitions in other regions and times, > but here in 2018 in the USA, the descriptions are as follows. > > Conservative: conservatives are the defenders of the status quo - historically they are advocates of monarchy and theocracy, i. e. totalitarianism. > The kind of ideologies that originally built this > nation as reflected in the constitution. you mean people like jefferson and washington who carried a coup against england to 'found' a slave society. > That of individual > liberties, free-market system, that's just empty libertarian rhetoric. In practice conservative are the opposite of what they pretend to preach. > confined government kept within > due bounds. Most conservatives seem to also be religious yep, that's the only thing you got right. Conservatives are theocratic scum. > and > have a system of moral code immoral code. > (as in non-secular) not reliant on > government. wrong. it's reliant on jew-kristian theocracy - you may need to learn that theocracy is a specially toxic form of government. > Non secular (by choice) societies are often better > self-governed and self reliant without big government, because > they strive to live by moral codes. This is another reason why > alot of the people whom layed the foundation of the USA were also > reverent people. Hence the motto "In God We Trust". OK - every word you write is fascist propaganda so the above explanations should be enough for now. > > The other side is the Socialist side: you don't know what socialism means. Hint : anything the governmetn does is socialism. So now go back and look at all the governmetn programs you conservatives support. Every one of them is a socialistic program. > They often refer to themsevles as "liberal" or "the left", > but not liberal as in more individual freedom, but more liberal as in secular. not sure what your problem with secularism is, but yeah you are right in that 'liberals' are against individual freedom, exaclty like conservatives (aka right wingers). > Liberal as in liberty from moral code. They place their trust more-so in > government > than in God. so they are not theocratic, anti libertarianr lunatic, they are secular anti libertarians. Not too much of a meaningful difference. > As a result they cannot self govern like religious or > conservative side. OK - you should go preach to the fuckin church. By the way, do you know what's the basis for your 'religion'? It's wholly based on child abuse. The only way for people to become christian scum is by being mentally raped by their parents and 'taught' about 'jesus'.
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
Original message From: juan Date: 8/9/18 2:47 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:14:21 -0700 Razer wrote: > presented by marketing scumholes like infowars freethoughtproject, etc. still, what did jones say to get all the american nazis to censor him? And even funnier, this happens under the trumpo monarchy? I think his main offense is calling the Sandy Hook school shootings a staged fiction, which caused his really really vicious midget following to harass, dun, and threaten the child victim's families. He created a situation where peoples lives were actually threatened over his callous blather. Inciting bullying and threats. He took no action to call them off. He's culpable and I hope he chokes to death on the vitamin supplements he hawks. Rr Ps. VenezuelaAnalysis page on FB is back online. Here's their statement on their site. it also appears on their FB page. https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/13990
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/09/2018 09:47 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:14:21 -0700 > Razer wrote: > >> presented by marketing scumholes like infowars freethoughtproject, etc. > > > still, what did jones say to get all the american nazis to censor him? > And even funnier, this happens under the trumpo monarchy? > > > There is no monarchy, I understand you are probably trying to be humorous. But for those whom do not know, Trump was elected. As for the recent censorship in the USA. It is the same media that is waging war against Trump, that is also silencing InfoWars.And Trump is really not a bad evil person like the controlled mainstream American media is trying to frame him up as. The controlled propaganda machine is trying to falsely make it seem that most Americans are anti-Trump (not true), and that Trump is racist or a Russian spy, or a horrible person (none of which are true either). They are trying to use the mainstream media, and manipulating social media (through suppression of speech by banning or shadow banning) into turning millenials against Trump and the people whom voted for him. And this same propaganda machine wants to silence anyone they also disagree with or dislike. America is so divided right now, and is split between two groups of people at the moment. This terminology that describes these two sides might have different definitions in other regions and times, but here in 2018 in the USA, the descriptions are as follows. Conservative: The kind of ideologies that originally built this nation as reflected in the constitution. That of individual liberties, free-market system, confined government kept within due bounds. Most conservatives seem to also be religious and have a system of moral code (as in non-secular) not reliant on government. Non secular (by choice) societies are often better self-governed and self reliant without big government, because they strive to live by moral codes. This is another reason why alot of the people whom layed the foundation of the USA were also reverent people. Hence the motto "In God We Trust". The other side is the Socialist side: They often refer to themsevles as "liberal" or "the left", but not liberal as in more individual freedom, but more liberal as in secular. Liberal as in liberty from moral code. They place their trust more-so in government than in God. As a result they cannot self govern like religious or conservative side. The socialist left secular side wants government to take care of them often at the expense of individual liberty and at the cost of bigger government. This is also why most people on this side are also anti 2nd amendment (in the USA this means the individual right to keep and bear arms for self defense from criminals both in society and in government), they want less power for the individual and more power in the government. A socialist type government can not be successful if it is opt-in, and if the governed have more power than the government. A socialist type government seems to also always lead to a larger government with less individual freedoms. It is this side that is also really angry that their candidate Hillary Clinton did not win the elections, so they want to delegitimize Trumps administration (and conservatives) as much as possible. Its part of the socialist infiltration of the USA, is the suppression of freedom of speech and the spreading of misinformation of their opposition. I am against censorship. Yeah, without censorship you have the risk of lies. But with censorship, you have the even greater risk of truth being suppressed, and with lies or misleading information, or only partial truths, being propagated by the one doing the censoring. The best solution is to have no censorship and let all information be tested by the reader or consumer of such media. If all sides have equal say, the truth shall stand strong in the midst of challenge. If something be truth, it shall stand. If something be not truth, it shall fall to truth. THUS CENSORING ONLY BENEFITS LIES. Alot of governments censor information because they fear the truth, the truth is against such governments. Even if Alex Jones or Infowars is wrong, or propagates information that some find disagreeable, censorship is not the way. Censorship is very dangerous and creates a system that can very very easily be abused. When something cannot win through challenge, it can only win by suppression of opposing views and information. It is really concerning when censorship is becoming a reality in the USA. Even in the UK with the government mandated information black out on a certain journalist earlier this year. Or when people are persecuted by their government for voicing their opinion or saying the wrong things by calling all and any opposing views as "hate speech" when it isn't. End the censorship now. Please recogonzie the dangerous world we are entering for allowing censorship. (And lets see
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 12:14:21 -0700 Razer wrote: > presented by marketing scumholes like infowars freethoughtproject, etc. still, what did jones say to get all the american nazis to censor him? And even funnier, this happens under the trumpo monarchy?
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
Actually, they came for VenezuelaAnalysis.com's FB page today. What DID you expect? They need to suppress some information before they can pound the BIG LIE narrative into the sheeple's heads for a while, THEN they'll let you speak. All 'they' really need to do is suppress alternative information until they've pounded their narrative into the mainstream society's heads, then they let you speak. They dont have to eliminate your voice, just strategically suppress it when necessary for their goals. For instance, the company that made Colin Powell's "Saddam CWD Lab", as seen by everyone at the UN, called the media and the US government the very next morning and explained that they were hydrogen generators for WWII vintage "barrage balloons", that were floated over cities to dissuade bombing runs. SOME media even reported it. On page E-31, two days later, so to speak. Whose story is going to be remembered as fact? Rr Ps. You have to be, literally, a moron, not to be able to source the information being presented by marketing scumholes like infowars freethoughtproject, etc. Original message From: grarpamp Date: 8/8/18 11:06 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpu...@cpunks.org Subject: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media https://www.infowars.com/ https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones https://www.pscp.tv/u/11929682 Long time pundit Alex Jones censored off of Youtube, Facebook, Apple, Stitcher, Spotify... https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/952p5y/youtube_bans_infowars_alex_jones_for_spewing_hate/ https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/951ev2/facebook_itunes_and_spotify_drop_infowars/ First they came for Assange, Then they came for Jones...
The fastest route to Internet freedom (of a sort) - Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:37:56PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:06:27AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > https://www.infowars.com/ > > https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones > > https://www.pscp.tv/u/11929682 > > > > Long time pundit Alex Jones censored off of > > Youtube, Facebook, Apple, Stitcher, Spotify... > > > > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/952p5y/youtube_bans_infowars_alex_jones_for_spewing_hate/ > > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/951ev2/facebook_itunes_and_spotify_drop_infowars/ > > > > > > First they came for Assange, > > Then they came for Jones... > > Ron Paul's executive director suspended on Twitter: > https://www.rt.com/usa/435372-ron-paul-twitter-censorship/ > https://www.reddit.com/r/RonPaulCensored/ > https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-27/youtube-economically-censors-ron-paul-labels-videos-not-suitable-all-advertisers > > Julian Assange Just Showed How Ron Paul is censored for ... > 28 Aug 2017 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5OHgZ1i_E > > Blocked: How the pro-life movement is being censored on social ... > 24 Jan 2018 > http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/370455-blocked-how-the-pro-life-movement-is-being-censored-on-social > > Facebook, Google & YouTube Censorship At An All Time High ... > https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/03/01/facebook-google-youtube-censorship-at-an-all-time-high-what-ever-happened-to-free-speech/ > > > There's an easy solution - torrent your 'tubes, and disperse your > "social" media to alt platforms - there's no real shortage of such > either. > > If you're in the ear of a big name/ public personality, encourage > them to make a very public jump to an alternative platform and > encourage them to encourage others - hell, even Elon Musk took down > Tesla's FaceBook page... > > > > MIGA - Make Internet Great AGain. > > #ItsOkToBeWhite OK, here's the next step - get behind Alex Jones/ InfoWars in the following way (seriously, this is the most effective/ productive step to be achieved): Contact PayPal https://www.paypal.com/uk/selfhelp/contact/email/complaint and infowars.com domain registry and ask why InfoWars has not been banned/ removed, and how hateful Alex Jones' speech is. https://www.name.com/abuse Contact the App Store and complain about all the hateful, hateful vids the Alex Jones and IfnoWars have been putting up: https://support.apple.com/contact Get involved with the "liberal lefty marxist unthinkers" and in exasperation, ask them why the hell is PayPal still taking money for this hateful, hateful man Alex Jones? Spread the hate, maximise the de-platforming. Anglin was way to conservative, too focussed (literally) on paleo dieting and his gym regimen, for people to think anything other than "SQWARK, NEON-NAZI, SQWARK", whereas Alex Jones on the other hand is enough of an out there nutcase that the main stream unthinkers figured he must have been saying something useful - but the relevant point is, Alex Jones has a large audience, a large following, and the more he is de-platformed (and Ron Paul and others), the quicker we will get to a better situation, to a multi-platform world. The people (not the tech) are the platform.
Re: Alex Jones Infowars Censored Off Social Media
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:06:27AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > https://www.infowars.com/ > https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones > https://www.pscp.tv/u/11929682 > > Long time pundit Alex Jones censored off of > Youtube, Facebook, Apple, Stitcher, Spotify... > > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/952p5y/youtube_bans_infowars_alex_jones_for_spewing_hate/ > https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/951ev2/facebook_itunes_and_spotify_drop_infowars/ > > > First they came for Assange, > Then they came for Jones... Ron Paul's executive director suspended on Twitter: https://www.rt.com/usa/435372-ron-paul-twitter-censorship/ https://www.reddit.com/r/RonPaulCensored/ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-27/youtube-economically-censors-ron-paul-labels-videos-not-suitable-all-advertisers Julian Assange Just Showed How Ron Paul is censored for ... 28 Aug 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5OHgZ1i_E Blocked: How the pro-life movement is being censored on social ... 24 Jan 2018 http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/370455-blocked-how-the-pro-life-movement-is-being-censored-on-social Facebook, Google & YouTube Censorship At An All Time High ... https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/03/01/facebook-google-youtube-censorship-at-an-all-time-high-what-ever-happened-to-free-speech/ There's an easy solution - torrent your 'tubes, and disperse your "social" media to alt platforms - there's no real shortage of such either. If you're in the ear of a big name/ public personality, encourage them to make a very public jump to an alternative platform and encourage them to encourage others - hell, even Elon Musk took down Tesla's FaceBook page... MIGA - Make Internet Great AGain. #ItsOkToBeWhite
Re: alex jones
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 00:37:19 +1100 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:20:38PM -0300, Juan wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:22:48 -0700 > > g2s wrote: > > > > > > > See the screenshot. Google Algorithms LUVs them an Alex Jones > > > > so google promoting alex jones should give another hint as > > to whose agenda jones is actually serving. > > Interesting. Sure looking like controlled opposition - yes, like all the russian garbage you post and all the white supremacist garbage you post.
Re: alex jones
On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 11:20:38PM -0300, Juan wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:22:48 -0700 > g2s wrote: > > > > See the screenshot. Google Algorithms LUVs them an Alex Jones > > so google promoting alex jones should give another hint as to > whose agenda jones is actually serving. Interesting. Sure looking like controlled opposition - who has worn out his usefulness to the cabal. A 2004 CIA-murdered "conspiracy theorist" from Russia (he gave lectures to educate Russians all over Russia for some years) - thought provoking for all of us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfYy29t44E The link between Putin and Illuminati - 'Secret World Governance' lecture >From here: https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/03/the-link-between-putin-and-illuminati-secret-world-governance-lecture-video/ Putin turned out to be not quite the patsy Yeltsin handed over.
Re: alex jones
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 15:22:48 -0700 g2s wrote: > See the screenshot. Google Algorithms LUVs them an Alex Jones so google promoting alex jones should give another hint as to whose agenda jones is actually serving. > > > Rr > > >
Re: alex jones
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:04:24 -0400 Steve Kinney wrote: > > Mostly I think our ruling class just wants to finish looting everyone > else's assets. I don't think that the most destructive aspects of > this process represent a plan to exterminate the human species, but > rather, a consequence of the ignorance, greed, and perverse > incentives inherent in corporate capitalism. Indeed. I don't think that getting rid of the serfs is an explicit objective, but rather something that might happen as an 'unintented consequence'. I'd assume the 'elites' see their tax cattle as a necessary evil of sorts. We need tax cattle in order to collect taxes. But, if we can get material resources using mostly (or only) machines, then the tax cattle becomes superfluous or even a liability. > > An equal and in some respects opposite species of propaganda narrative > targets the ruling class and its more senior servants assets, with the > message that Super Science can and will solve /any/ material problem > at any scale, laws of physics be damned, as soon as it becomes > necessary to do so. I think a more accurate variation on that theme is that 'super science' or technical means can solve many problems related to tax cattle management, aka 'government' aka 'fighting evil terrists'. The optimist (misguided) view is something along the lines of "technology can't ultimately be regulated and it empowers ordinary people" but reality is rather the opposite. As technical means become more sophisticated they end up being controlled by less and less people. And technical means amplify power imbalances. A guy with a machine gun can kill hundreds, or thousands. A guy with a nuke can kill millions, etc. > I have known some "smart" people who earnestly > believe this nonsense, while dismissing the somewhat /less/ ignorant > and irrational beliefs fabricated for consumption by the more > ignorant among the peasantry. > > :o/ > > > > > > > > >
Re: alex jones
On 03/09/2018 09:38 PM, juan wrote: > > > I never paid much attention to the guy - he seemed mostly a fake > libertarian clown (americunt nationalist, jew-christian > nutcase) but lately I caught a couple of interesting bits from > him. [...] > it seems that jones' job is to turn reality into a nutcase > 'conspiracy theory'. That's my conclusion as well. I think it was Robert Heinlein who said that the most artistic way to lie is to tell the truth, maybe even the whole truth, so unconvincingly that everyone is sure you're lying. Whenever I catch Alex Jones "telling the truth" it turns out to be an exercise in the said art form. A professionally fabricated quasi-religiuos Conspiracy Belief System has displaced the FAR more sane and respectable homegrown Conspiracy Theory market it emulates, with our little droogie Alex leading the way. Alex and his ilk work hard to persuade /most/ of the public that dissident opinions and information contradicting corporate a.k.a. 'mainstream' propaganda narratives are insane opinions based on ignorant lies. Those who do buy into the narrative become de facto sock puppets who can be counted on to catapult the propaganda via social media networks, and to smear the stinking shit-stain of "lunatick beliefs" all over any dissident social or political activity their Dear Leader directs them to participate in. > What's really going on is that indeed the > oligarchy wants to become 'immortal' and possibly get rid of > 90.9% of the human race. But if that very real possibility > is discussed by a nutcase like jones babbling about 'aliens' and > 'pedophiles' and '12 dimensions' 'interdimensional stuff' etc > then the very real threat of a world government with the > ability to track all the microchiped, tax cattle in realtime > becomes the 'stuff' that ignorant morons who watch alex jones > believe. > > in short, motherfucking retard alex jones is just controlled > opposition. Mostly I think our ruling class just wants to finish looting everyone else's assets. I don't think that the most destructive aspects of this process represent a plan to exterminate the human species, but rather, a consequence of the ignorance, greed, and perverse incentives inherent in corporate capitalism. An equal and in some respects opposite species of propaganda narrative targets the ruling class and its more senior servants assets, with the message that Super Science can and will solve /any/ material problem at any scale, laws of physics be damned, as soon as it becomes necessary to do so. I have known some "smart" people who earnestly believe this nonsense, while dismissing the somewhat /less/ ignorant and irrational beliefs fabricated for consumption by the more ignorant among the peasantry. :o/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
