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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/opinion/06brooks.html?hp=pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
November 6, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Values-Vote Myth
By DAVID BROOKS
Every election year, we in the commentariat come up with a story line to
explain the result, and the story line has to
John Young:
Tyler,
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere
as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a
term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html
Palm Beach Post
Broward machines count backward
By Eliot Kleinberg
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Friday, November 05, 2004
FORT LAUDERDALE - It had to happen. Things were just going too smoothly.
He won because 53 percent of voters approved of his performance as
president. Fifty-eight percent of them trust Bush to fight terrorism. They
had roughly equal confidence in Bush and Kerry to handle the economy. Most
approved of the decision to go to war in Iraq. Most see it as part of the
war on
On CJ (Carl Johnson) and Jim Bell:
There was a time when the greatest terrorist threat to the
US was located in the northwestern part of the country,
Idaho, Washington State and Oregon, some of California.
Militia the infidels were called.
The US Attorney's Office in Tacoma, WA, was a center
of
Feel like part of the team
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2004/11/06/no_canada?mode=PF
The Boston Globe
THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING
No, Canada!
You don't want to go there
By Alex Beam, Globe Staff | November 6, 2004
You have probably heard the idle chatter: ''I'm thinking of
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/books/review/07HITCHENS.html?8hpib=pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
November 7, 2004
'Perilous Times': War of Words
By CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS
PERILOUS TIMES
Free Speech in Wartime, From the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism.
By Geoffrey
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as Operation
Of course. What kind of question is that? Regardless of voting fraud, about
half of US
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/politics/campaign/06internet.html?pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
November 6, 2004
FUND-RAISING
Kerry Kept Money Coming With the Internet as His ATM
By GLEN JUSTICE
WASHINGTON, Nov. 5 - The power of the Internet in this year's election can
be
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:46:17 -0500, Tyler Durden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the
local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm. Those of us living close
enough to Ground Zero to smell it back in those days are apprarently
Fair enough. Canada is a role model for the US, as is the US for
the world: nobody is wanted unless they are willing to pay for the
mistakes and messes the locals have made, or best, work for
starvation wages, usually off the books, long the prime source of
penal-grade labor in the Echelon
The US made a bundle from WW1 and WW2 warfare, in both
cases being rescued from an economic slump, and some have
argued the US delayed sending troops as long as possible to
extend the demand for supplies, supplies which appeared to
always be insufficient but enough to keep the warring parties
--
John Young wrote:
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most
fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment,
and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
I routinely call people
Wow. What kind of fucking idiot wrote this thing? A piece like this can
actually get published? This is the biggest set of arguments I've seen yet
for moving TO Canada!
BTW: I always thought that Economic Immigration was an excellent
ideait siphoned off tons of Hong Kong millionares before
On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as Operation
Of course. What kind of question
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:25:19 +, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not true.
much busywork math deleted
Saddam had 100% turnout, and won 100% of the vote. Does that make his
election more legitimate to you?
--
Pete Capelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For the map-obsessed, this one shows the depth of support for
President Feckless in the global community. Pretty goddam impressive
I'd say. I takes true flair to blow off so many former clients and
fair weather friends in so short a time.
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/worldmap.jpg
And oh
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:31:24AM -0800, James Donald wrote:
I routinely call people like you nazi-commies.
How novel and interesting.
Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code.
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On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:25:19PM +, Justin wrote:
Not true.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/voter.turnout.ap/
[Curtis] Gans puts the total turnout at nearly 120 million people.
That represents just under 60% of eligible voters...
You didn't vote against a candidate, you
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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Justin wrote:
On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the
local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm.
Precisely.
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the
American people as being complicit
J.A. Terranson wrote:
The fact is that those who did not vote effectively voted for Shrub. You
are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Inaction
is not good enough.
This would only be true if the President were elected by popular vote.
In states where one candidate
It sounds suspiciously like an int16 issue.
32K is close enough to 32767 after which a 16 bit integer goes negative
when incremented. Which is odd because it should roll over, not count
backwards.
perhaps they did something like this:
note the use of abs on reporting.
int16
At 11:42 AM -0800 11/6/04, John Young wrote:
capitalist
There you go, speaking marxist again...
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
Capitalism is totalitarian for economics...
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At 6:25 PM + 11/6/04, Justin wrote:
65m/141m = 46% of registered voters voted for Bush
Of course, you can invert the math and say the same about Kerry, plus
Bush's 3-something million margin, I'm afraid. Hell, Rush said
exactly the same thing on
At 8:08 PM +0100 11/6/04, Eugen Leitl wrote:
Cypherpunks write code.
Right. That's it. Wanna write me a bearer mint? For free?
;-)
Cheers,
RAH
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At 9:31 AM -0800 11/6/04, James Donald wrote:
As George Orwell observed, anyone who thinks there is a significant
difference between nazis and commies is in favor of one or the other.
I'm going to have hunt that one up for my .sig file.
Thank you.
Cheers,
RAH
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Fun bits to read, somewhat related to Owell and the perceived notional
differences between various... extremists.
http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/f/fa/fascism.html
http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/site/opinion/essays/storgaard1.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/11/07/do0704.xml
The Telegraph
Believe it or not, it wasn't just rednecks who voted for Bush
By Mark Steyn
(Filed: 07/11/2004)
The big question after Tuesday was: will it just be more of the same in
George W Bush's second term,
Enzo Michelangeli writes:
In the world of international trade, where mutual distrust between buyer
and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to
enforce
the law, this is traditionally achieved by interposing not less than
three
trusted third parties: the shipping line,
http://www.rense.com/general59/rig.htm
More Evidence The Vote Was Rigged
From Wayne Nash
11-5-4
I don't want rain on the parade but I am getting quite a few emails from
various sources citing possible irregularities with the voting process.
So, I did a little research myself on the net to see
http://www.infosecwriters.com/hhworld/hh9/voting.txt
Hitchhiker's World (Issue #9)
http://www.infosecwriters.com/hhworld/
Observable Elections
Vipul Ved Prakash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
November 2004
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07court.html?partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=print
We're going to get some extremist anti-abortion, pro-internment,
anti-1A, anti-4A, anti-5A, anti-14A, right-wing wacko.
Imagine Ashcroft as Chief Justice.
I really hope I'm wrong.
What happens when the
--
Peter Gutmann wrote:
That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones
(backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour,
in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather
ineffective against the armour)
I find this very hard to believe. Post
--
Peter Gutmann wrote:
That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones
(backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour,
in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather
ineffective against the armour)
You have this garbled.
According to
--
James Donald:
I routinely call people like you nazi-commies.
Eugen Leitl wrote:
How novel and interesting.
Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code.
I also write code, unlike people like you.
See for example www.echeque.com/Kong
--digsig
James A.
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict
the American people as being complicit in the crime known as Operation
Of course. What kind of question is that? Regardless of voting fraud, about
half of US
He won because 53 percent of voters approved of his performance as
president. Fifty-eight percent of them trust Bush to fight terrorism. They
had roughly equal confidence in Bush and Kerry to handle the economy. Most
approved of the decision to go to war in Iraq. Most see it as part of the
war on
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/opinion/06brooks.html?hp=pagewanted=printposition=
The New York Times
November 6, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
The Values-Vote Myth
By DAVID BROOKS
Every election year, we in the commentariat come up with a story line to
explain the result, and the story line has to
John Young:
Tyler,
Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere
as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a
term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some.
Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity.
Tim May, praise Allah,
On CJ (Carl Johnson) and Jim Bell:
There was a time when the greatest terrorist threat to the
US was located in the northwestern part of the country,
Idaho, Washington State and Oregon, some of California.
Militia the infidels were called.
The US Attorney's Office in Tacoma, WA, was a center
of
R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These were not the sort of sporting arrows skillfully shot toward gayly
colored targets by Victorian archery societies (charmingly described by Mr.
Soar in later chapters) but heavy bodkin pointed battle shafts that went
through the armor of man and horse.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tiarn=E1n_=D3_Corr=E1in?=) writes:
The Russians (for example) conquered Hitler's capital, Berlin. And I believe
the Russian zone in Germany was larger than any of the others, reflecting the
fact that Stalin bore most of entire burden of defeating Germany,
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