[Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Dave Aitel
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/att-hacker-found-guilty/ So I'm no fan of Weev aka Andrew Auernheimer. The man is seriously disturbed and it's odd to see people support him https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/271067146145107968 on Twitter. Just as an example, here's some bizarre rape

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
Entirely agreed - and while all occupations are at risk for over-criminalization, InfoSec is also at an intersection point with major political narrative. Like many Academics were put at risk right after 9/11 for research that had always been in the public eye. It's worth your time to read the

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread J. Oquendo
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Dave Aitel wrote: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/att-hacker-found-guilty/ So I'm no fan of Weev aka Andrew Auernheimer. The man is seriously disturbed and it's odd to see people support him https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/271067146145107968 on Twitter.

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
On Nov 21, 2012 9:08 AM, Dave Aitel d...@immunityinc.com wrote: It's obvious to anyone with any technical background that the case the FBI brought against him is a travesty, and the fact that they won is even more insane. It's this sort of thing that makes it obvious the DHS doesn't understand

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Dan Tentler
There was some healthy discussion on twitter yesterday about potential fallout in terms of new laws or legislature - the way these people tend to handle things they find scary is the same way the TSA does. Some guy puts a bomb in his shoes? Everyone has to take their shoes off to get xrayed. Some

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Don Bailey
It's a bit frustrating to have a security professional equate this case to peering in a window. As part of my research, I am googling for new SIM technology and the keywords that go along with it often. Results show spreadsheets and other files that may be relevant to me, but which clearly

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel Clemens
On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:20 AM, J. Oquendo wrote: How many individuals here have either 1) Sat on a jury for a tech case 2) been involved in a tech case that went to trial? ... *crickets* Raises Hand ( 1 ) . A few times In one case that I can share I was sitting through the Jury

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread J. Oquendo
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012, Daniel Clemens wrote: Raises Hand ( 1 ) . A few times In one case that I can share I was sitting through the Jury selection process. It was interesting since this ended up being a child exploitation case and the defendant was stating that somehow a 'virus'

Re: [Dailydave] Weev's collateral damage.

2012-11-21 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
The problem is that the ~context~ rarely follows the (now) precedent that gets established. That's why issues of over-criminalization are even hard to tackle. Not to mention any of the previously mentioned difficulties of (effectively) an adversary w/ unlimited resources that can legally handicap