Re: [dane] Gen-art LC review of draft-ietf-dane-ops-12

2015-06-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 07:19:17PM +0100, Elwyn Davies wrote: Summary: Almost ready. There are a couple of minor issues, and I think the authors need to reassess whether all the cases where RFC 2119 keyworrds are actually protocol requirements as opposed to operation best practice

Re: [dane] Remote DNS management automation?

2015-06-22 Thread John Levine
What automation is out there for remotely managing DNS records when the domain owner is using a registrar? It completely depends on the registrar and the registry. Some provide DNS service, some don't. Some provide a complete API for managing services, some only provide a web site, some still

Re: [dane] AD review of draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey-03

2015-06-22 Thread John Levine
John brought up three issues. 1) Lowwercase might fail for non-ascii 2) mailbox localpart guessing not allowed 3) mailbox/local part of different case might be different person This sort of misrepresentation of what other people have said is extremely unhelpful. Anyone interested in

[dane] Remote DNS management automation?

2015-06-22 Thread William Stouder-Studenmund
I know I’m about to ask a question which is out of the WG scope, but 1) I expect folks here will be able to point me to the right answers, and 2) the question hits on an issue that I perceive is hindering DANE deployment. What automation is out there for remotely managing DNS records when the

Re: [dane] AD review of draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey-03

2015-06-22 Thread Carsten Strotmann
Hi, John Levine wrote: It is painfully evident that few people in this discussion have any experience with mail systems other than their own, and none with large (millions of mailboxes), and generalizing from limited experience is never a good idea. I see interest in the email hosting

Re: [dane] AD review of draft-ietf-dane-openpgpkey-03

2015-06-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015, A. Schulze wrote: That's the point: you EXPECT that. But John has the idea that this could fail. I don't know all the details about UTF8SMTP or EAI, but I could imagine we see the world in ASCII. Most of us have no daily expieriences with chinese or arabian. And at