Re: [datameet] 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Sajjad Anwar
Thanks!

I put together a map using the data - http://geohacker.in/bmtc/
You can search for bus stops and neighborhoods. The search uses the bus
stops data and city level data from geonames.org

There are couple of things that have to be fixed. But if you come across
some issues or have ideas for new features, please file a
tickethttps://github.com/geohacker/bmtc/issues/new.

When we have the routes data, I can put that up and see if we can find
directions easily.

The code isn't too clean, but I'll make it alright -
https://github.com/geohacker/bmtc
Also, it's a bit slow initially because there are 2201 points coming into
your browser. Will fix soon.

Let me know what you think!

Cheers,
Sajjad


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:

 I scraped BMTC site today for details.

 Now I have all the routes and bustop info.

 New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at
 http://openbangalore.org/available-data/


 By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check the
 sqlite at
 https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data



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Election data (Was: [datameet] [Bangalore] Open Data Camp 2014 Confirmed March 22nd and 23rd - Google Offices)

2014-02-18 Thread Anand Chitipothu
Hello everyone,

Looks like there is lot of interest in extracting election data from PDFs.
I've started extracting lot of data from voter lists, esp. for Bangalore.

All the data is still sitting in my server. Couple of samples:

http://d.anandology.com/karnataka/pdfs/AC154/AC1540111.json

I started a project to put all these things in a good shape, expose them on
a website with a nice API.

https://github.com/anandology/opendata-ge2014

If any of you already working on such things, please let me know. There is
no point duplicating each others efforts.

Anand

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Nisha Thompson nisha.thomp...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Everyone,

 I would like to invite everyone to the 2014 Bangalore Open Data Camp.
 March 22nd and 23rd!  Please register and get more information on the link
 below!

 This is our 3rd Camp!  We are excited to be doing a deep dive into
 Election data this year!  The Loka Sabha Election is providing us a great
 opportunity to look at how this information is accessed, used, and ways to
 improve how we use data during elections. We will also be looking at
 accountability data and exploring data used in election coverage. The 2nd
 day there will be a Hackathon with Oorvani Foundation and others.

 http://odc.datameet.org/odcblr2014

 This year we will be doing pre events
 Free the PDF - A one day hackathon that will continue the 2nd day of the
 conference to convert election data from PDFs to open formats.
 From District to Constituencies - A workshop with Geo Bangalore on dealing
 with the shape file issues around MP/MLA constituencies.

 Please register today space is limited.  Also we are being more restricted
 this year for the first day of talks, the 2nd day will be more open.  So if
 you want to speak please take a look at the tracks and contact Thej or I
 directly.

 There will be more information to come!  Also we are looking for
 volunteers to help run the event and pre events. Please dm me if you have
 some time and want to help.

 Thanks to our Sponsors Google, Akshara and Oorvani Foundation!

 I hope to you see you all there!

 Nisha

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Re: Election data (Was: [datameet] [Bangalore] Open Data Camp 2014 Confirmed March 22nd and 23rd - Google Offices)

2014-02-18 Thread Nisha Thompson
This is awesome Anand. We're going to have a free the pdf event the weekend
before.

Let's get together and make sure we don't duplicate effort.

Will add your work to the pdf event wiki page.

Anyone else with election data?
On Feb 18, 2014 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu anandol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Looks like there is lot of interest in extracting election data from PDFs.
 I've started extracting lot of data from voter lists, esp. for Bangalore.

 All the data is still sitting in my server. Couple of samples:

 http://d.anandology.com/karnataka/pdfs/AC154/AC1540111.json

 I started a project to put all these things in a good shape, expose them
 on a website with a nice API.

 https://github.com/anandology/opendata-ge2014

 If any of you already working on such things, please let me know. There is
 no point duplicating each others efforts.

 Anand

 On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Nisha Thompson 
 nisha.thomp...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Everyone,

 I would like to invite everyone to the 2014 Bangalore Open Data Camp.
 March 22nd and 23rd!  Please register and get more information on the link
 below!

 This is our 3rd Camp!  We are excited to be doing a deep dive into
 Election data this year!  The Loka Sabha Election is providing us a great
 opportunity to look at how this information is accessed, used, and ways to
 improve how we use data during elections. We will also be looking at
 accountability data and exploring data used in election coverage. The 2nd
 day there will be a Hackathon with Oorvani Foundation and others.

 http://odc.datameet.org/odcblr2014

 This year we will be doing pre events
 Free the PDF - A one day hackathon that will continue the 2nd day of the
 conference to convert election data from PDFs to open formats.
 From District to Constituencies - A workshop with Geo Bangalore on
 dealing with the shape file issues around MP/MLA constituencies.

 Please register today space is limited.  Also we are being more
 restricted this year for the first day of talks, the 2nd day will be more
 open.  So if you want to speak please take a look at the tracks and contact
 Thej or I directly.

 There will be more information to come!  Also we are looking for
 volunteers to help run the event and pre events. Please dm me if you have
 some time and want to help.

 Thanks to our Sponsors Google, Akshara and Oorvani Foundation!

 I hope to you see you all there!

 Nisha

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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Thejesh GN
Yes.

http://www.mybmtc.com/service/timings/gns/General%20Services

check arrival and departure. I will scrape them next :)

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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.comwrote:

 is there schedule data too somewhere on the site?


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:


 Uploaded the routes info. Here it is
 http://openbangalore.org/available-data/

 If you are a developer get sqlite
 For non developers:
 - routes - Gives route info
 - busstops - Bus stops info
 - routes-busstops - Has route to busstop linking



 Timing is something I am planning to extract next. May be in next few
 days I will update the routes(tables, csv) with bus timings.


 If you want to help me, here is the project
 https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/


 For a long time we had demand for transport data. here it is at last. Go
 crazy.

 Let me know if you are using it anywhere, I will add it to
 http://openbangalore.org/usage-examples/



 Also attached early print screen of heatmap of busstops in 2012 and 2014
 @500mts radius.




 Thej
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 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Devdatta Tengshe 
 devda...@tengshe.inwrote:

 Awesome! I had scrapped some data, but had left the project incomplete
 due to paucity of time.
 I'm eagerly waiting for the Routes.

 Regards,
 Devdatta


 On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:

 I scraped BMTC site today for details.

 Now I have all the routes and bustop info.

 New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at
 http://openbangalore.org/available-data/


 By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check the
 sqlite at
 https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data



 Thej
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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Sajjad Anwar
I'm fixing tiny things as I come across on the app -
http://geohacker.in/bmtc/ (larger circles, easy to click etc, responsive
etc.)
Thej, schedule would be fabulous. We could potentially build a simple app
which takes in destinations and suggest routes.

I don't have a lot of time, so if someone's got spare time, let me know.
Prateek (copied) tells me that he'd be happy to help.

Fork away! https://github.com/geohacker/bmtc

Cheers,
Sajjad.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:

 Yes.

 http://www.mybmtc.com/service/timings/gns/General%20Services

 check arrival and departure. I will scrape them next :)

 Thej
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 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.comwrote:

 is there schedule data too somewhere on the site?


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:


 Uploaded the routes info. Here it is
 http://openbangalore.org/available-data/

 If you are a developer get sqlite
 For non developers:
 - routes - Gives route info
 - busstops - Bus stops info
 - routes-busstops - Has route to busstop linking



 Timing is something I am planning to extract next. May be in next few
 days I will update the routes(tables, csv) with bus timings.


 If you want to help me, here is the project
 https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/


 For a long time we had demand for transport data. here it is at last. Go
 crazy.

 Let me know if you are using it anywhere, I will add it to
 http://openbangalore.org/usage-examples/



 Also attached early print screen of heatmap of busstops in 2012 and 2014
 @500mts radius.




 Thej
 --
 Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Devdatta Tengshe 
 devda...@tengshe.inwrote:

 Awesome! I had scrapped some data, but had left the project incomplete
 due to paucity of time.
 I'm eagerly waiting for the Routes.

 Regards,
 Devdatta


 On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:

 I scraped BMTC site today for details.

 Now I have all the routes and bustop info.

 New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at
 http://openbangalore.org/available-data/


 By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check
 the sqlite at
 https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data



 Thej
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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Sajjad Anwar
On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to
publish this data in the GTFS format
(https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)

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[datameet] Re: [datameet.delhi] How about a election data gathering meet-up?

2014-02-18 Thread Debamitro Chakraborti
On Wednesday, 12 February 2014 16:23:54 UTC+5:30, sumandro wrote:

 Anyday after Saturday, Feb 23 is good for me. Sunday, Feb 24 will be great.


saturday is 22
sunday is 23
monday is 24


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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Sajjad Anwar
OSM allows gtfs tags -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.

I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you
know what license BMTC publishes this in?

Cheers,
Sajjad.

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:
 We can.

 But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.

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 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

 On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to
 publish this data in the GTFS format
 (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)

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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread srinivas kodali
I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected Time
of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore.

Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meerak...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes -
 we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects.
 It can help general junta to access it easily.

 -Meera


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

 OSM allows gtfs tags -
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
 Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.

 I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
 the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you
 know what license BMTC publishes this in?

 Cheers,
 Sajjad.

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:
  We can.
 
  But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
 
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  On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:
 
  On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to
  publish this data in the GTFS format
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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Thejesh GN
Is it live somewhere?

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On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected
 Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore.

 Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meerak...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes
 - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects.
 It can help general junta to access it easily.

 -Meera


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

 OSM allows gtfs tags -
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
 Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.

 I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
 the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you
 know what license BMTC publishes this in?

 Cheers,
 Sajjad.

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:
  We can.
 
  But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
 
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  On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:
 
  On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to
  publish this data in the GTFS format
  (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
 
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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Suvajit

Good job Thej  Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop  route info from their website 
and presenting on OSM.

But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 1000 
stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing ones.
Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But 
unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly.
I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a 
given locality. 
So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to 
extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time.

On the live tracking point, BMTC  already awarded a project last year to 
put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is 
expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works 
well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses.
This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop 
database building.

Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this 
project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule 
information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in 
GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it.

Sajjad,
  What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ?

Regards,
Suvajit


On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:

 Is it live somewhere? 

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 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected 
 Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. 

 Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes 
 - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. 
 It can help general junta to access it easily.

 -Meera


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.injavascript:
  wrote:

 OSM allows gtfs tags -
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
 Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.

 I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
 the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you
 know what license BMTC publishes this in?

 Cheers,
 Sajjad.

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN 
 i...@thejeshgn.comjavascript: 
 wrote:
  We can.
 
  But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
 
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  On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in javascript: 
 wrote:
 
  On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to
  publish this data in the GTFS format
  (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
 
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Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations

2014-02-18 Thread Sajjad Anwar
Hey,

On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, Suvajit suvajit.sengu...@gmail.com wrote:


 Good job Thej  Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop  route info from their
website and presenting on OSM.

 But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have
1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing
ones.
 Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But
unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly.
 I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a
given locality.
 So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to
extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time.

Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of
Service https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html. Even if you scrape
the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful way.


 On the live tracking point, BMTC  already awarded a project last year to
put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is
expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works
well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses.
 This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop
database building.

 Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this
project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule
information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in
GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it.

 Sajjad,
   What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ?

 Regards,
 Suvajit


 On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:

 Is it live somewhere?

 --
 Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.com wrote:

 I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement  Expected
Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore.

 Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus
routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as
objects.
 It can help general junta to access it easily.

 -Meera


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

 OSM allows gtfs tags -
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
 Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.

 I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to
 the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you
 know what license BMTC publishes this in?

 Cheers,
 Sajjad.

 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com
wrote:
  We can.
 
  But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
 
  --
  Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
  http://thejeshgn.com
  GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
 
  On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:
 
  On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense
to
  publish this data in the GTFS format
  (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
 
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