Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Hi Devdatta and Avinash, yes, I, too, am frankly surprised at the ease with which one can access sensitive data in bulk. Not only PDF rolls and voter details, but also things such as land records, BPL lists, and much more - I think we are in an exciting as well as dangerous phase of fairly

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Gautam John
Leaving aside my earlier comment as perhaps tongue in cheek, the electoral rolls are *meant* to be public. The Registration of Electors Rules, 1960 makes that clear. However, your larger point is well made. Maybe what needs to be done is to *de-centralise* the storage? That fulfils the

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Chandrashekhar Raman
Raphael, you raise very pertinent issues. We as a community love open data and in this country there is a lot that can be done to free all kinds of data so that it can be made use of in a good way (election data in an aggregated form is one example). But at the same time there are certain kinds

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Avinash Celestine
Hi Gautam I dont think the issue is with having the electoral roll available publicly per se. personally, i think its better that the rolls are available in the open, as compared with the alternative, where it is confidential, thus leaving it open to other types of abuses. But i do think that

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Chandrashekhar, just on the specific issues of targeting communities, which I have thought about a great deal (my first book was on post-2002 Gujarat), my tentative conclusion is this: The fact that electoral rolls had been used in the past in riots before they were available online shows that

Re: [datameet] Please Comment on Copyright License for DataMeet Work

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Hi all, there is a good comparison of CC vs ODBl when applied to data at http://www.dcc.ac.uk/resources/how-guides/license-research-data also, any specific reason to use CC 2.0? There are CC 4.0 licenses already, arguably more developed (and also more suitable for data, see link above)... My

Re: [datameet] Please Comment on Copyright License for DataMeet Work

2014-04-11 Thread Raphael Susewind
Additional advantage of ODbl is that different parts of a compound dataset can have different licenses, which makes it easier for pulling together stuff from different sources. On 11.04.2014 09:50, Thejesh GN wrote: We can use CC-BY-SA-4.0 for artifacts. It looks better and has everything

Re: [datameet] Security Issues with the Voter List

2014-04-11 Thread Chandrashekhar Raman
Raphael, To clarify, i am not trying to make a case against availability of fine grained data, far from it i'm with you on this argument among others that are made spuriously to restrict access. I might have stretched the point but then again - killing is just one extreme form of discrimination -

[datameet] Shape file for Delhi district wise

2014-04-11 Thread Bhanu Priya Vyas
Hi all We are making a project on sanitation and need a kml file for Delhi to project District wise distribution of population versus percentage of households with toilets. It would be great if someone could could tell us how to source Delhi's map through Google geocoding. -- For more