2009/12/14 Kevin McGrath kmcgr...@baknet.com
The time_zone function in DateTime::Format::Strptime is only called with
parse_datetime. I think a nice feature would be to also set the time_zone
when calling format_datetime.
Keep in mind that DateTime::Format is a framework, and consistency
There is nothing I want to do with parse_datetime. parse_datetime works
great and nothing I have said suggests that anything different should happen
when parsing a string to a datetime object. Everything about
parse_datetime, reading of a string and setting of a time_zone works exactly
how
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Kevin McGrath kmcgr...@baknet.com wrote:
Doing the work in parse_datetime does not work for me. In fact I almost
never call parse_datetime directly and when I do it's to get the datetime
passed in from a form into UTC. I need/want the time_zone conversion to
That is an option, just thought that since DateTime::Format::Strptime
already provides a function for time_zone it would make sense for all things
parsed or formatted be done in respect to that time_zone.
Like I said I already have a class that takes care of this, my own subclass
of
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Kevin McGrath kmcgr...@baknet.com wrote:
Here is my situation. I use the Rose Framework as my ORM under mod_perl,
fast_cgi, and server_side scripts. I have the framework set up to use UTC
to store all datetimes. I do all work in my controllers in UTC time.
I know traditional convention does not account for this. That is why I was
merely suggesting a 'format_with_time_zone' option you could pass to the new
constructor.
DateTime::Format::Strptime already takes time_zone as a parameter. Why
should you have the set the time zone as an extra step
I like the new option idea Kevin proposes. Seems more straightforward.
Just my 2 cents...
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin McGrath [mailto:kmcgr...@baknet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:23 PM
To: Evan Carroll
Cc: datetime@perl.org
Subject: Re: time_zone and DateTime
Basically I have a subclass of DateTime::Format::Strptime that takes one
more parameter; a boolean that if true will format the datetime object with
what is returned from time_zone.
This sounds like a bad idea, because you made note that you're doing
this on format_datetime, time_zone by
I guess I'm just not very good at explaining the feature. If I have a
formatter that is related to a time_zone then I feel that input and output
of that formatter should be able to be based on that time zone.
my $Strp = new DateTime::Format::Strptime(
pattern = '%T',
locale = 'en_AU',
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Kevin McGrath kmcgr...@baknet.com wrote:
I guess I'm just not very good at explaining the feature. If I have a
formatter that is related to a time_zone then I feel that input and output
of that formatter should be able to be based on that time zone.
The
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Evan Carroll m...@evancarroll.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Kevin McGrath kmcgr...@baknet.com
wrote:
I guess I'm just not very good at explaining the feature. If I have a
formatter that is related to a time_zone then I feel that input and
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Evan Carroll m...@evancarroll.com wrote:
Why then does parse_datetime automatically convert from a string to a
timezone?
Shouldn't it then just always return a datetime in floating context?
It doesn't convert it reads it as.
my $dt =
Maybe that's what I'm really looking for. I originally thought it was a
minor change that fit well within the parameters of the current module, but
I'm open to ideas.
-Kevin
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Jim Monty jim.mo...@yahoo.com wrote:
How about an entirely new, high-level abstraction
But the difference is I'm not really adding functionality, and nothing
is happening under the hood to the DateTime object, just a new value
will be supplied to the DateTime constructor.
I guess I still don't see how:
$Strp-format_datetime( $str, { time_zone = $tz1 } );
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Evan Carroll m...@evancarroll.com wrote:
How much would you want to be overridable, and set in the constructor
of the DateTime::Format module?
Just the format_datetime function when it comes to the value which is
assigned to the time_zone attribue. It's
Just the format_datetime function when it comes to the value which is
assigned to the time_zone attribue. It's already an attribute of the
module.
I simply /do not/ believe you understand the difference between being
1:30 read-in the context of America/Chicago, and converting it with
If I understand you right, I have a framework that does this for you:
DateTimeX::Format. And, a module for it DateTimeX::Format::Strptime -
it permits you to override all of the environment in runtime, and it
doesn't use a perl-rewrite of strptime, instead it uses the POSIX
binding.
use
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