Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Fri 09 Jul 2004 06:02, Dean Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren Duncan wrote: At 12:33 AM +0200 7/9/04, H.Merijn Brand wrote: Perhaps as a middle ground, I can suggest that DBI v2 will support Perl 5.6 initially, but that support will be considered deprecated. This way, 5.6

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread Tim Bunce
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:09:29PM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: And it wasn't easy. Withdrawing support for 5.6 anytime soon would be _much_ harder. Coupling that with a major change in the DBI that may require some application code changes (however small and rare) just

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Tim Bunce wrote: As I've said previously, DBI v2.0 is mainly about changes to the DBI-DBD interface. Makes no difference, IMO. DBD authors have the same choice to stick with v1 or not.

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Fri 09 Jul 2004 14:10, Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 01:09:29PM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: And it wasn't easy. Withdrawing support for 5.6 anytime soon would be _much_ harder. Coupling that with a major change in the DBI that may

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread Tim Bunce
On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 03:41:32PM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Tim Bunce wrote: As I've said previously, DBI v2.0 is mainly about changes to the DBI-DBD interface. Makes no difference, IMO. DBD authors have the same choice to stick with v1 or not. True. And DBD authors also have a

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
At 6:16 PM +0100 7/9/04, Tim Bunce wrote: Why not create a new method call, as you (IMHO) should have done in 1.38 The change of behaviour in the tables () method is a straightforward nightmare for me. Adding those quotations broke about all my applications. Some of mine too. But quotes are

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-09 Thread Darren Duncan
At 8:46 PM +0200 7/9/04, H.Merijn Brand wrote: If it would have been up to me to set the standards and defenintions, I would *_NEVER_* ever have allowed blanks^wnon-word characters in table(space)- and field- names. I have just had the luck^wawful experience of having to convert a M$Access DB to

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-08 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Thu 08 Jul 2004 19:47, Tim Bunce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 08, 2004 at 10:39:37AM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote: My question for today is whether you think it is reasonable for DBI v2, which is already expected to break a few things, to simply require 5.8.x at the outset, or

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-08 Thread Darren Duncan
At 12:33 AM +0200 7/9/04, H.Merijn Brand wrote: You won't be leaving them behind. They still have DBI-1.xx FWIW as per customer request, I am depending on 5.8.4 and up since two weeks. You can imagine that's a little bit earlier than I planned. And it's not UTF-8 that makes me need 5.8.4 That's

Re: Minimum dependencies for DBI v2

2004-07-08 Thread Dean Arnold
Darren Duncan wrote: At 12:33 AM +0200 7/9/04, H.Merijn Brand wrote: You won't be leaving them behind. They still have DBI-1.xx FWIW as per customer request, I am depending on 5.8.4 and up since two weeks. You can imagine that's a little bit earlier than I planned. And it's not UTF-8 that makes