You cannot go further without either breaking existing code.

You *can* fix the code in a fork.  This gives people the of switching to the 
fork when *they* want to.  Or don’t switch.

Seems to me forking is the only way forward.


Just my 2c worth, having been exposed to these shenanigans of point #1 
extensively at former $work.


Liz

> On 10 Nov 2017, at 15:03, p...@cpan.org wrote:
> 
> On Friday 10 November 2017 10:09:59 demerphq wrote:
>> Pali is there a concise summary of what we are arguing about here?
> 
> Short summary:
> 
> 1. There are applications which misuse perl and DBD::mysql internals to
>   pass blob or utf-8 text data from perl to MySQL database. We were not
>   aware of them for a longer testing period of time as nobody
>   complained until version 4.042 of DBD::mysql was released. There were
>   trial releases, blog posts, asking testers for test, etc...
> 
> 2. Unicode support in DBD::mysql is broken and cause data corruption.
>   There are lot of reported bugs about it, e.g.:
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=25590
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=53130
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=60987
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=87428
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=119079
>   https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=120141
>   All those problems were fixed, but breaking applications which misuse
>   internals. Basically Unicode support is opposite of the above.
>   All fixes from 4.042 were reverted and version 4.043 was released.
> 
> 3. DBD::mysql itself misuse libmysqlclient internals for a long time and
>   now when MariaDB changed something, it cannot be used with DBD::mysql
>   anymore.
> 
> 4. Due to how Oracle (not) reacted and (not) fixed problems related to
>   SSL, DBD::mysql has a security problems when SSL encryption is used.
>   There are also other crashing problems in DBD::mysql.
> 
> 5. Misusing internals of 3rd applications which use DBD::mysql is a
>   problem because basically any change of low level parts in DBD::mysql
>   can lead to breakage of those 3rd applications. And because nobody
>   was able to detect it would break something there is a really big
>   chance that bigger changes in DBD::mysql break something again.
>   Fixing 3. is expected to be big change.

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