Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-08 Thread Matt S Trout
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 07:06:10AM +, Andrew Beverley wrote: > Thanks for the updated governance MST. Just one comment/question from > me (this is not intended to be critical because I made the previous > alternate proposal, it's a genuine concern that I would like to see > answered that led

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-08 Thread Darren Duncan
On 2016-11-08 1:10 PM, Matt S Trout wrote: On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 12:18:14PM +0100, Hartmaier Alexander wrote: Are 72 hours enough to reach a significant amount of list members? For releasing a CPAN version that's fine for me as git master should always be in a releaseable state but for

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-08 Thread Matt S Trout
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 12:18:14PM +0100, Hartmaier Alexander wrote: > Are 72 hours enough to reach a significant amount of list members? > For releasing a CPAN version that's fine for me as git master should > always be in a releaseable state but for feature branch merges I'd like > to have this

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-08 Thread Hartmaier Alexander
Are 72 hours enough to reach a significant amount of list members? For releasing a CPAN version that's fine for me as git master should always be in a releaseable state but for feature branch merges I'd like to have this extended to say a week. What do the others think?

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-07 Thread Andrew Beverley
Thanks for the updated governance MST. Just one comment/question from me (this is not intended to be critical because I made the previous alternate proposal, it's a genuine concern that I would like to see answered that led me to make the previous alternative proposal): > Voting Members are: > >

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-07 Thread Darren Duncan
Having read Matt's new proposal and its correction, it comes across as reasonable and workable to me. I have no thoughts at this time as to how it could be improved. This message is just feedback, and does not make any relative value judgements between Matt's proposal and Peter's upcoming

Re: [Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-07 Thread Matt S Trout
I'm an idiot. > Voting closes after 72h from when the proposal was first posted. This line should be replaced with: Voting closes after 72h from when the VOTE: email is sent. My apologies. -- Matt S Trout - Shadowcat Systems - Perl consulting with a commit bit and a clue

[Dbix-class] PROPOSAL: Governance and sustainability

2016-11-07 Thread Matt S Trout
The updated bootstrap governance document appears below - basically I've attempted to tweak it so that, while business as usual can occur without needing the list to expend time getting involved, the community now gets a clear veto - and there's a forcible recall method (forced vote) to defend