Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

2016-10-12 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 02:02:16PM +0100, Colin Newell wrote: > I think it might be worth going back to frew's suggestion of the > Collective Code Construction Contract and think about whether we can > try to adopt the risk management into the general governance of the > project. We all seem to ag

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

2016-10-12 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 08:54:47AM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * Peter Rabbitson [2016-10-11 17:28]: > > Additionally stability on its own isn't tangible, nor does it yield > > a final product. It is simply a mindset. When this mindset is not > > represented in the group as a whole, it mak

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

2016-10-12 Thread Colin Newell
> > Does it need to be a single person? Could it be a team responsibility like > a Toyota-style "Stop the Line" button? I think a community can decide how it > wants to mechanically run a stop process. > > The important thing – if stability is truly important – is making sure that > people with th

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

2016-10-12 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > The position of a czar is reactive and disempowered. They can only fire- > fight individual issues as the project hurtles forward headlong. > > If you want real security or actual good design, it must be part of the > culture: it must

Re: [Dbix-class] 5/5 Why "a stability tzar" is a ridiculous proposition

2016-10-11 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Peter Rabbitson [2016-10-11 17:28]: > Additionally stability on its own isn't tangible, nor does it yield > a final product. It is simply a mindset. When this mindset is not > represented in the group as a whole, it makes no difference whatsoever > whether a small part of said group is advocatin