Re: [deal.II] Gradient of the shape function wrt natural coordinate system?

2018-10-14 Thread Yuxiang Wang
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much Professor Bangerth.

Have a great one,
Shawn

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 1:47 PM Wolfgang Bangerth 
wrote:

> On 10/14/2018 11:57 AM, Yuxiang Wang wrote:
> >
> > While I can use the shape_grad function to get the gradient of the shape
> > function with respect to the real cell coordinates, would there be a way
> to
> > get the shape_grad with respect to the reference natural coordinates?
> For
> > example, for shell element (that I'm working on), I have the global
> > coordinates (x, y, z) for a point and also a natural coordinate system
> (r, s, t).
> >
> > One possibility is that I can use the chain rule and the jacobian matrix
> to
> > get that value, but it'll be very computationally inefficient. Could
> anyone
> > please help?
>
> I think you are asking for the *unmapped* shape functions as they are
> defined
> on the reference cell. That's something you can get from the finite
> element
> itself via the
>FiniteElement::shape_grad()
> function or its implementation in derived classes.
>
> The gradient of the shape functions mapped to a particular cell in a mesh
> can
> be obtained via FEValues::shape_grad(), which I think is what you are
> referring to above.
>
> Best
>   W.
>
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Re: [deal.II] Gradient of the shape function wrt natural coordinate system?

2018-10-14 Thread Wolfgang Bangerth
On 10/14/2018 11:57 AM, Yuxiang Wang wrote:
> 
> While I can use the shape_grad function to get the gradient of the shape 
> function with respect to the real cell coordinates, would there be a way to 
> get the shape_grad with respect to the reference natural coordinates? For 
> example, for shell element (that I'm working on), I have the global 
> coordinates (x, y, z) for a point and also a natural coordinate system (r, s, 
> t).
> 
> One possibility is that I can use the chain rule and the jacobian matrix to 
> get that value, but it'll be very computationally inefficient. Could anyone 
> please help?

I think you are asking for the *unmapped* shape functions as they are defined 
on the reference cell. That's something you can get from the finite element 
itself via the
   FiniteElement::shape_grad()
function or its implementation in derived classes.

The gradient of the shape functions mapped to a particular cell in a mesh can 
be obtained via FEValues::shape_grad(), which I think is what you are 
referring to above.

Best
  W.

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[deal.II] Gradient of the shape function wrt natural coordinate system?

2018-10-14 Thread Yuxiang Wang
Dear all,

While I can use the shape_grad function to get the gradient of the shape 
function with respect to the real cell coordinates, would there be a way to 
get the shape_grad with respect to the reference natural coordinates? For 
example, for shell element (that I'm working on), I have the global 
coordinates (x, y, z) for a point and also a natural coordinate system (r, 
s, t). 

One possibility is that I can use the chain rule and the jacobian matrix to 
get that value, but it'll be very computationally inefficient. Could anyone 
please help?

Best,
Shawn

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