Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Hello, For laptop ban, as far as I know Turkish Airlines started a service to take care of laptops before boarding. http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/03/24/turkish-airlines-electronics-ban/ I know it is not the best solution but it might be better to check laptops in bags. On Sun,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 03/25/2017 10:49 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > martin f krafft writes: > >> … at least not while we're flying in airplanes where toys with bluetooth >> are taken off children (just happened…). Since the aircraft can be >> disturbed with Bluetooth, I think we have a slew of

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

martin f krafft writes: > … at least not while we're flying in airplanes where toys with bluetooth > are taken off children (just happened…). Since the aircraft can be > disturbed with Bluetooth, I think we have a slew of other issues anyway, > so it's hard to see the tree

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

also sprach Russ Allbery [2017-03-25 19:36 +0100]: > It's very difficult to figure out the threat model under which > moving electronics, containing lithium-ion batteries no less, from > the passenger cabin to the cargo hold makes the plane safer. And > of course no one who

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

martin f krafft writes: > Here's an alternative thought about this laptop ban: > http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2=11823052 > Basically it says this is retaliation against Gulf airlines, because > apparently, US airlines are exempt from the laptop ban.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Here's an alternative thought about this laptop ban: http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2=11823052 Basically it says this is retaliation against Gulf airlines, because apparently, US airlines are exempt from the laptop ban. If that's the case — I did not verify — then an obvious

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:53:43PM +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Call me naive, but I was hoping that somebody would have answers and > would also raise questions. > For instance, one point being, what if the airlines enters US > airspace, doesn't land in US but goes through there to Canada. >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 22/03/17 16:20, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 06:36:12AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: >> Hi Steve > >> On 21/03/2017 20:02, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> There has been no indication that this is in any way

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Hi all, Call me naive, but I was hoping that somebody would have answers and would also raise questions. For instance, one point being, what if the airlines enters US airspace, doesn't land in US but goes through there to Canada. Wouldn't those airlines be also affected by this ban ? I did have

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 06:36:12AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Hi Steve > On 21/03/2017 20:02, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > There has been no indication that this is in any way driven by the Trump > > administration. >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Hi, This thread started out okay, and some practical advice followed. But it's already gone the way of a recent thread on debian-private. For that I came up with this procmail rule: :0: * ^List-Id:.*debian-private.lists\.debian\.org * ^Subject:.*\[off\-topic\] $HOME/.maildir/.Trash/ To avoid

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 07:25:38AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Latest update: don't take flights connecting through the UK either. > > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/21/uk-set-to-ban-laptops-on-flights-from-middle-east-countries > > Notice they didn't include the UAE airports in

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 21/03/17 16:12, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Dear all, > How are we to know if we are affected by the ban or not ? Most > airlines, at least the low-cost ones I know don't have an e-mail id or > even if they have, they don't reply. I have experienced it . I have > tried the live chat option at some

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 22/03/17 05:51, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >>> The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda > >> Respectfully... > >> Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list?

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:34:10PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda > Respectfully... > Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list? No. Have a nice day. -- Steve Langasek

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Hi Steve On 21/03/2017 20:02, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > There has been no indication that this is in any way driven by the Trump > administration.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 03/21/2017 07:02 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > The Trump administration has a genuinely racist agenda Respectfully... Could we please keep politics out of any Debian list? I'd very much prefer if we just keep fighting for free software, and I suspect I'm not the only one with that preference.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than > individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. > Some of the airports on the list (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) are transit points > for many people

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Dear all, How are we to know if we are affected by the ban or not ? Most airlines, at least the low-cost ones I know don't have an e-mail id or even if they have, they don't reply. I have experienced it . I have tried the live chat option at some of the sites too and at times have found that what

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Le 2017-03-21 à 09:20, Jeroen Dekkers a écrit : > At Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:29:17 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines >> rather than individuals and it could impact people going to >> DebConf this

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Le 2017-03-21 à 04:29, Daniel Pocock a écrit : > Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on > DebConf and DebConf visitors? For example, could there be a > computer lab or other facility where people can work without a >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 21/03/17 11:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2017-03-21 11:21:30) >> martin f krafft wrote: >>> Do not fly via the US. >> >> That's my plan also, but: >> >> the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose >> the restriction on flights to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:49:27AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > I don't believe the media coverage; but if this really does happen, > > hopefully everyone can find a flight/airline avoiding such > > restrictions. My ideas would be using KLM (direct from Europe) or Wizz > > Air (via

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

At Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:29:17 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than > individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. It is a cabin ban, so it is still possible to put a laptop in checked luggage. Kind regards,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On 21/03/17 11:10, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Daniel Pocock [2017-03-21 21:29 > +1300]: >> Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on >> DebConf and DebConf visitors? > > Do not fly via the US. I understand this might mean the cheapest >

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:21:30AM +, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > martin f krafft wrote: > > Do not fly via the US. > > That's my plan also, but: > > the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose > the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2017-03-21 11:21:30) > martin f krafft wrote: > > Do not fly via the US. > > That's my plan also, but: > > the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose > the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the US. > > I don't

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

martin f krafft wrote: > Do not fly via the US. That's my plan also, but: the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the US. I don't believe the media coverage; but if this really does happen,

Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

also sprach Daniel Pocock [2017-03-21 21:29 +1300]: > Can anybody make suggestions about how to minimize the impact on > DebConf and DebConf visitors? Do not fly via the US. I understand this might mean the cheapest flight is not available to you, but some of the measures you

[Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

Looking at the laptop ban[1], it appears to target airlines rather than individuals and it could impact people going to DebConf this year. Some of the airports on the list (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) are transit points for many people from Asia going to the US and Canada or from Australia going to