Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Dmitrijs Ledkovs  writes:
> I am bringing Mikasa MVA200 (indoor) and Mikasa VLS300 (beach) balls,
> needles and pump.

great, I'm definitely in for beach volleyball.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland

2013-08-08 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 08:13:51PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 11:35:11PM +, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:37:37AM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:29:38AM +, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland
 
 As part of the 13th Debian Conference in Vaumarcus, Switzerland there will
 be OpenPGP (pgp/gpg) keysignings.  If you intend to participate in the
 DebConf13 keysignings, please send your ascii armored public key as
 explained at [0] no later than 23:59 UTC on Thursday 8th of August, 2013.
 I'll start processing keys tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> s/13th/14th/
>>> 
 More (and up-to-date) information is available at [0], so keep watching
 it.
 
 [0] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc13/ksp-dc13.html
>> 
>> Currently, there are 59 people listed at [2]. Also, it's only a few days
>> before the release of the ksp-dc13 keyring.
>> 
>> So please send your keys as soon as possible.
>> 
>> If you sent a key and it isn't listed at [2], please let us know.
>> 
>> [2] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc13/names.html
> 
> There are currently 99 people listed at [2]. There are 12 hours or so
> before the deadline.
> 
> If you plan to send your keys, please hurry up and send them as
> explained at [0].

The deadline has now passed. If you haven't submitted your keys yet,
it's too late to get your keys on the list. It's not, however, too late
to participate altogether. Bring paper slips or business cards with your
gpg fingerprint.

Martin F Krafft will announce the KSP time and venue of a
discussion/information session about the kesigning during DebConf13. It
will be followed by a KSP.

At http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc13/ both the keyring and text
files will have corresponding files with their SHA256 checksums. The
SHA256 files will be signed with public key 0x947897D8, which can be
downloaded from keyring.debian.org or db.debian.org.

At [0] there is more information about how to verify the signed SHA256
checksums.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 8 August 2013 21:37, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 10:29:28PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On 08-08-13 20:58, martin f krafft wrote:
>> > [To the Americans among us, s/Football/Soccer/]
>> >
>> > If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
>> > to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.
>>
>> For full information, there're fields for volleyball and basketball,
>> too; I suppose balls for those sports would work as well.
>
> I brought a nice beach volley ball but I broke my pump needle. If someone
> brings one we can have it playable again.
>

I am bringing Mikasa MVA200 (indoor) and Mikasa VLS300 (beach) balls,
needles and pump.

Regards,

Dmitrijs.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 10:29:28PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On 08-08-13 20:58, martin f krafft wrote:
> > [To the Americans among us, s/Football/Soccer/]
> > 
> > If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
> > to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.
> 
> For full information, there're fields for volleyball and basketball,
> too; I suppose balls for those sports would work as well.

I brought a nice beach volley ball but I broke my pump needle. If someone
brings one we can have it playable again.

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On 08-08-13 20:58, martin f krafft wrote:
> [To the Americans among us, s/Football/Soccer/]
> 
> If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
> to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.

For full information, there're fields for volleyball and basketball,
too; I suppose balls for those sports would work as well.

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If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum  [2013.08.08.2123 +0200]:
> I think Martin's point about _argentina_ experience was to not repeat the
> _spanish_ experience of playing barefoot :)
> 
> But please bring a ball, you can play barefoot if you want!

What Lucas meant to say was that you are now the officially
DPL-appointed football-bringer. Heck, most Italians ride their
motorcycles bouncing a football on their heads.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 08/08/13 at 21:15 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 08:58:04PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
> > to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.
> 
> Barefoot!

I think Martin's point about _argentina_ experience was to not repeat the
_spanish_ experience of playing barefoot :)

But please bring a ball, you can play barefoot if you want!

Lucas
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 08:58:04PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
> to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.

Barefoot!

/me hides
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector

2013-08-08 Thread Victor Martinez
If you're still on the US you could buy this inexpensive plug

http://www.sterenshopusa.com/catalog/prod.asp?f=15&sf=98&c=98&p=1517&desc=%3Cb%3Eblister-packaged%3C-b%3E-american-plug-to-european-plug-adapter

It's very crappy and cheap, but do the work, yes, it's neither grounded not
fused, but mostly had helped me on DC11, and by the wiki info this one
would fit on a Swiss power outlet, also I saw on homedepot they had more
fancier and fused, grounded, etc... their page its at this moment offline,
but is other place to buy an adapter that don't cost an eye.

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[Debconf-discuss] Football please

2013-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
[To the Americans among us, s/Football/Soccer/]

If you have a ball, please bring it. There's a nice field right next
to the hack lab and we {c,sh}ould repeat the Argentina experience.

Cheers,

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[Debconf-discuss] The Return of the Assassins

2013-08-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Hello fellow Debconf 13 attendees,

Debconf Assassins. Again.

In past Debconf, playing the Assassins game became a kind of
tradition. At least, it happened during DC6, DC7, DC8 and
DC9. Unfortunately, DC10 and DC11 didn't seeany game organised,
mostly because nobody took time to do so. But DC12 revived this tradition.

DC13 *will* have its Assassins game.

What is the game? The best way to explain it is pointing you to the
dedicated wiki page:
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Assassins.

As you may see, despite the name, no  violence, no hate. Just fun.

The only action you have to do if you want to participate is checking
the "Participate in the Assassins game" checkbox in your personal page
in Penta : https://penta.debconf.org/penta/submission/dc13/person

Please also DON'T FORGET TO REGISTER at Frontdesk when arriving at
Debconf as Assassins referees will try to avoid "ghost targets"
(people assigned as target to someone but who never showed up). It is
not fun to seek for someone who is just not there.

Please feel free to ask for details in this mailing list.


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[Debconf-discuss] New DC13 bar prices

2013-08-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin

Hi

Most of you that are already at Le Camp received a DebConf13 cup. From
now on the bar will only serve you drinks in this cup. If you did not
get your cup yet, come to Front Desk to get you cup.

The DC13 cup is a bit larger than the cups we used til now, so we did
the most natural thing and lowered the prices. Hurrah! 

See you at the bar!
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone booked train seats for Yverdon?

2013-08-08 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Wookey, 08.08.2013 15:27:59 +0100 |=-
> +++ Raphaël Walther [2013-08-06 07:16 +0200]:
> > Hi Derek,
> > 
> > I recommend you to use directly the website from the national railway 
> > company.
> > 
> > http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/query.exe/en
> > 
> > Type in your date an time.
> > From: Zurich Airp.
> > To: Concise, Camp de Vaumarcus
> > 
> > Usually tickets are valid one trip during the day they are valid. I don't 
> > think
> > you need to book a seat.
> 
> I've already got train tickets to Vallorbe, but need a bus from there
> to Yverdon and then Vaumarcus. Can I easily just arrive and buy one on
> the bus? Or I have to get a ticket at the station? The above link lets
> me buy one in advance, but it's not clear if that's valid for just one
> time or that journey at any time that day?

Any time that day. The only catch is that you should provide a photo 
ID with names matching the names on the electronic ticket.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone booked train seats for Yverdon?

2013-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Wookey  [2013.08.08.1627 +0200]:
> I've already got train tickets to Vallorbe, but need a bus from there
> to Yverdon and then Vaumarcus. Can I easily just arrive and buy one on
> the bus?

Yes. It's 7 CHF.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone booked train seats for Yverdon?

2013-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Wookey (2013-08-08 16:27:59)
> I've already got train tickets to Vallorbe, but need a bus from there 
> to Yverdon and then Vaumarcus. Can I easily just arrive and buy one on 
> the bus? Or I have to get a ticket at the station? The above link lets 
> me buy one in advance, but it's not clear if that's valid for just one 
> time or that journey at any time that day?
> 
> Unfortunately I only have 7 mins between train and bus, so getting it 
> in advance would be good.

Bus route Yverdon to Vaumarcus feels quite local - the driver of my bus 
even stopped in the middle of a sharp curve, blocking the whole road, to 
greet an elder man and (I guess) talk about the weather for about a 
minute, before continuing.  That bus did not accept creditcards seemed 
to me that the normal think was to buy on board - not ahead.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone booked train seats for Yverdon?

2013-08-08 Thread Wookey
+++ Raphaël Walther [2013-08-06 07:16 +0200]:
> Hi Derek,
> 
> I recommend you to use directly the website from the national railway company.
> 
> http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/query.exe/en
> 
> Type in your date an time.
> From: Zurich Airp.
> To: Concise, Camp de Vaumarcus
> 
> Usually tickets are valid one trip during the day they are valid. I don't 
> think
> you need to book a seat.

I've already got train tickets to Vallorbe, but need a bus from there
to Yverdon and then Vaumarcus. Can I easily just arrive and buy one on
the bus? Or I have to get a ticket at the station? The above link lets
me buy one in advance, but it's not clear if that's valid for just one
time or that journey at any time that day?

Unfortunately I only have 7 mins between train and bus, so getting it
in advance would be good. 

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland

2013-08-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 08:13:51PM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> >>> DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland

What with 2048R keys?  Is there a reason to replace them already, or are
they ok for now?  As I understand, only 1024D keys are considered risky.

In 2009 I was told (not sure by whom: could be you but I don't really
remember) to use 2048R because 4096 is not supported by some software.

I currently have two keys:
2048R/EAC68101 -- primary
4096R/8F61E158 -- collecting signatures in case of a rollover

Normally a weaker but still secure key with more signatures is better,
but in this case, a single debconf keysigning party instantly makes
a key well-connected.

So, what should I do?  Keep it as-is, or drop the 2048 key and replace
it with a freshly generated one?


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector

2013-08-08 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2013-08-08 om 10:50 schreef Axel Beckert:
> Hi,
> 
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Knowing that an adapter is needed is not much help if you don't know where
> > to purchase one.  I have been unable to find any Swiss adapters for sale
> > here in the US
> 
> They're available in most bigger supermarkets in Switzerland, IIRC for
> prices around CHF 4 to 5.
> 
> Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > There is a plan to buy a large number of Swiss plugs (not adapters)
> > which can then be wired onto power strips.
> 
> They arrived this morning at Le Camp. Frontdesk knows more.
> 

And such plug works fine.

I did cut off the original plug and put on a swiss.
You might bring an extra cable for doing that,
I did it on the multiple socket strip that I have with me.

Back home I have to replace the swiss plug into a souvenir.  :-)


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DFSG-free car navigation software to find debconf this year?

2013-08-08 Thread Wookey
+++ Timo Juhani Lindfors [2013-08-07 10:39 +0300]:
> Hi,
> 
> every time I go to debconf I try to ask around for free software car
> navigation software that people use to find the venue. What are your
> favourites this year?

[snip useful info on how to drive monav]

I use marble and mappero(maemo-mapper) on an n900 which are both nice,
but I've failed to get monav working with them for offline routing on
that device. If someone can give me the runes that would be good.

I'd much prefer to use navit when abroad as that uses vector files
directly and thus doesn't require pre-downloading thousands of tiles,
but I've not managed to get better than a blank screenout of it when I
tried just before going on hols.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector

2013-08-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi,

Steve Langasek wrote:
> Knowing that an adapter is needed is not much help if you don't know where
> to purchase one.  I have been unable to find any Swiss adapters for sale
> here in the US

They're available in most bigger supermarkets in Switzerland, IIRC for
prices around CHF 4 to 5.

Ben Hutchings wrote:
> There is a plan to buy a large number of Swiss plugs (not adapters)
> which can then be wired onto power strips.

They arrived this morning at Le Camp. Frontdesk knows more.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector

2013-08-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting martin f krafft (madd...@debconf.org):

> So, quite differently from Microsoft OOXML, this is a better
> standard than the rest, but it has not been adopted outside of .ch
> and .br.

Ah, so that's like French Minitel in the 80's: technologically
advanced but noone else is using it..:-)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland

2013-08-08 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 11:35:11PM +, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:37:37AM +1000, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:29:38AM +, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
>>> DebConf13: Call for keys for keysigning in Vaumarcus, Switzerland
>>> 
>>> As part of the 13th Debian Conference in Vaumarcus, Switzerland there will
>>> be OpenPGP (pgp/gpg) keysignings.  If you intend to participate in the
>>> DebConf13 keysignings, please send your ascii armored public key as
>>> explained at [0] no later than 23:59 UTC on Thursday 8th of August, 2013.
>>> I'll start processing keys tomorrow.
>> 
>> s/13th/14th/
>> 
>>> More (and up-to-date) information is available at [0], so keep watching
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> [0] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc13/ksp-dc13.html
> 
> Currently, there are 59 people listed at [2]. Also, it's only a few days
> before the release of the ksp-dc13 keyring.
> 
> So please send your keys as soon as possible.
> 
> If you sent a key and it isn't listed at [2], please let us know.
> 
> [2] http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc13/names.html

There are currently 99 people listed at [2]. There are 12 hours or so
before the deadline.

If you plan to send your keys, please hurry up and send them as
explained at [0].


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Swiss power connector

2013-08-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi  [2013.08.07.2234 +0200]:
> Really the Swiss plugs are so weird: the ISO standard based them for
> standardization (with small change, but only Brazil will use them).

I know of no other plug that combines grounding and small space.
Stuff like this is only possible in .ch:

  
http://www.voltus.de/schalterprogramme/jung/aluminium/schuko-steckdosen/jung-al2523-120sev-steckdose-nach-schweizer-norm-dreifach-steckdose-typ-12.html

So, quite differently from Microsoft OOXML, this is a better
standard than the rest, but it has not been adopted outside of .ch
and .br.

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