Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Jonathan Carter]

On 19/06/2017 13:36, Neil Williams wrote:
> It is still possible to download a "free" (as in cost) VM directly from
> microsoft which would be sufficient to handle this PDF.
> https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

I worked around it by using a visa agency to handle all the paper work
for me. Cheaper than CAD$50 and I never had to touch any nasty Adobe
software, totally worth it.

-Jonathan
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Antonio Terceiro]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:37:59AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> and then, I'm sure there is a way to make this work on linux somehow,
> if only with wine as the last ressort.

I used playonlinux (contrib), which is a frontend to wine, to install
the Adobe PDF Reader for Windows and used it from there. Worked "fine".


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Andrew Shadura]

On 19 June 2017 at 04:37, Holger Levsen  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:47:00PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>> Does this mean that only people that can (or know a friend that can)
>> accept the terms of use from Microsoft and Apple are allowed to visit
>> Debconf?
>
> no, many people don't need a visa to visit Canada, eg, you and me and at
> least a billion other people. probably 66% of the Debian contributor
> population are included in this. (our distribution on the globe is skewed…)
>
> and then you can also use Microsoft and Apple products, without
> accepting there terms of use. Been there, done that.
>
> and then, I'm sure there is a way to make this work on linux somehow,
> if only with wine as the last ressort.

I was quite successful using Adobe Reader 9.* from Ubuntu partner
repository. It's old, it's non-free, but it did the job for me.

Another option, I heard, it to try and use Adobe Reader on Android.
Non-free as well, but reportedly works.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Julian Andres Klode]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:37:59AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:47:00PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > Does this mean that only people that can (or know a friend that can)
> > accept the terms of use from Microsoft and Apple are allowed to visit
> > Debconf?
>  
> no, many people don't need a visa to visit Canada, eg, you and me and at
> least a billion other people. probably 66% of the Debian contributor
> population are included in this. (our distribution on the globe is skewed…)
> 
> and then you can also use Microsoft and Apple products, without
> accepting there terms of use. Been there, done that.
> 
> and then, I'm sure there is a way to make this work on linux somehow,
> if only with wine as the last ressort.

I use a temporary wheezy chroot with the old AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb
package. It works OK for the few minutes I have to use it (this needs the
mscorefonts from contrib for me, otherwise rendering was broken on the forms
I use it on).

-- ~/bin/acroread

#!/bin/sh

set -e

if [ "$1" = "-e" ]; then
schroot -c acroread -e
exit 0
fi

if schroot --all-sessions -l | grep -q session:acroread; then
:
else
schroot --begin-session -n acroread -c wheezy-i386
schroot --run-session -c acroread -u root -- sh -c "echo deb 
http://localhost:3142/debian/ unstable contrib > 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/contrib.list && apt-get update"
schroot --run-session -c acroread -u root -- sh -c  "apt-get install -y 
--no-install-recommends cups-bsd gnome-themes-standard gtk2-engines libgtk2.0-0 
ttf-mscorefonts-installer && dpkg --force-depends -i 
/home/jak/Downloads/AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i386linux_enu.deb"
fi

schroot --run-session -c acroread env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY -- /usr/bin/acroread "$@"

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Julian Andres Klode]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:36:48PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:47:00 +0200
> Petter Reinholdtsen  wrote:
> > Personally I can not accept those terms as the currently stand, and
> > would never want to place a friend in the position that they would
> > have to accept those terms.
> 
> It is still possible to download a "free" (as in cost) VM directly from
> microsoft which would be sufficient to handle this PDF.
> https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/
> 
> Also, Adobe Acrobat Reader is available for Android and iOS.
> Unfortunately, unless the user is in a position to apply for a visa,
> the PDF does not seem to be offered by the Canadian Government website,
> so I can't check if it works. May be worth a try though.

Adobe Reader on Android does not support these kind of forms.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Neil Williams]

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:47:00 +0200
Petter Reinholdtsen  wrote:

> [Kyle Robbertze]
> > Unfortunately the standing workaround is to use Windows or Mac [1]
> >
> > [1] https://debconf17.debconf.org/about/visiting-montreal/  
> 
> Does this mean that only people that can (or know a friend that can)
> accept the terms of use from Microsoft and Apple are allowed to visit
> Debconf?

Of those who need visas, possibly. There are countries which do not
require explicit visas.

> Personally I can not accept those terms as the currently stand, and
> would never want to place a friend in the position that they would
> have to accept those terms.

It is still possible to download a "free" (as in cost) VM directly from
microsoft which would be sufficient to handle this PDF.
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/tools/vms/

Also, Adobe Acrobat Reader is available for Android and iOS.
Unfortunately, unless the user is in a position to apply for a visa,
the PDF does not seem to be offered by the Canadian Government website,
so I can't check if it works. May be worth a try though.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Holger Levsen]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:47:00PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Does this mean that only people that can (or know a friend that can)
> accept the terms of use from Microsoft and Apple are allowed to visit
> Debconf?
 
no, many people don't need a visa to visit Canada, eg, you and me and at
least a billion other people. probably 66% of the Debian contributor
population are included in this. (our distribution on the globe is skewed…)

and then you can also use Microsoft and Apple products, without
accepting there terms of use. Been there, done that.

and then, I'm sure there is a way to make this work on linux somehow,
if only with wine as the last ressort.


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Holger


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[Kyle Robbertze]
> Unfortunately the standing workaround is to use Windows or Mac [1]
>
> [1] https://debconf17.debconf.org/about/visiting-montreal/

Does this mean that only people that can (or know a friend that can)
accept the terms of use from Microsoft and Apple are allowed to visit
Debconf?

Personally I can not accept those terms as the currently stand, and
would never want to place a friend in the position that they would have
to accept those terms.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Kyle Robbertze]

On 19/06/2017 12:33, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I am having this issue while trying to open visa application form (tried
> it in browser and with evince, no luck on both sides). Has anyone got to
> this issue and how they solved it (tried installing Adobe Reader but it
> fails on my sid+exp machines). (sorry for formatting, I just cp'ed it
> from browser pdf viewer). Thanks in advance!
> Please wait...
> If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the
> document, your PDF
> viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
> You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac,
> or Linux® by
> visiting http://www.adobe.com/go/reader_download.
> For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit
> http://www.adobe.com/go/acrreader.
> Windows is either a registered trademark or a trademark of Microsoft
> Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. Mac is a trademark
> of Apple Inc., registered in the United States and other countries.
> Linux is the registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in the U.S. and other
> countries.

Unfortunately the standing workaround is to use Windows or Mac [1]

[1] https://debconf17.debconf.org/about/visiting-montreal/

Cheers
Kyle



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[Debconf-discuss] PDF reading/editing issues

[Zlatan Todoric]

Hi list,

I am having this issue while trying to open visa application form (tried 
it in browser and with evince, no luck on both sides). Has anyone got to 
this issue and how they solved it (tried installing Adobe Reader but it 
fails on my sid+exp machines). (sorry for formatting, I just cp'ed it 
from browser pdf viewer). Thanks in advance!

Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the 
document, your PDF

viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, 
or Linux® by

visiting http://www.adobe.com/go/reader_download.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit 
http://www.adobe.com/go/acrreader.
Windows is either a registered trademark or a trademark of Microsoft 
Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. Mac is a trademark
of Apple Inc., registered in the United States and other countries. 
Linux is the registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in the U.S. and other

countries.
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