Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Thanking our sponsors
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:00:16AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Hi Micah, On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:31:40PM -0400, micah anderson wrote: My guess is the great DrDub, who has been doing an amazingly significant amount of work in discussing with sponsors and potential sponsors has discussed with them the relative merits of donating, and perhaps the perk of the logo on the shirt is part of that sell. It would be interesting to know if he has heard one way or the other From the sponsors, if cared about that or not. I'm certainly no monetary sponsor, and probably should not use myself as a model, but if I were, I would be sponsoring Debconf because my company benefits significantly From Debian as a distribution. Either because it is a core business, or makes up critical internal infrastructure. The existence of a logo, or not, would not matter to me because I saved 10 gazillion dollars because we switched to Debian, and I want to keep that savings around. I can assure you that, while you accurately describe the motivations and desires of some of our sponsors, other actual and potential sponsors do care about seeing their logo displayed on the shirts and in other cases. For them it's about getting publicity for their organization to an audience that might care about them, instead of giving back to Debian per se. Both types are useful sources of funding. How about then explicitly selling that advertising space? If only some of the sponsors are (highly) interested in their logo promoted on that t-shirt, then leaving out those who don't will make the logos of the others bigger :-) ...and we won't hide that this is what it is: a billboard for sale! I believe we already at other places document who are big and who are small sponsors, so I guess we need not have the t-shirt be representative of that. Just sharing an idea here. I am not grumpy about the status quo, and highly appreciate the great work of the organisers!! Kind regards, and looking forward to see you all soon, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Thanking our sponsors
Hi, On Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: How about then explicitly selling that advertising space? We do that already, don't we? cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Thanking our sponsors
On Tue, 25 May 2010 10:57:29 -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:37:55PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Pablo Duboue pablo.dub...@gmail.com wrote: A long while somebody in #debconf-team asked if we can have plain t-shirts available for sale without sponsor logos. I share that wish. That is of course a valid question and I would like to share my feelings about it: it would be a very bad idea ;-) snip excellent analysis I'd like to reiterate a downside to the sponsor logos mentioned by Clint: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100521.021314.53087a99.en.html But, how many of the existing sponsors who have contributed find value in having their logos displayed? My guess is the great DrDub, who has been doing an amazingly significant amount of work in discussing with sponsors and potential sponsors has discussed with them the relative merits of donating, and perhaps the perk of the logo on the shirt is part of that sell. It would be interesting to know if he has heard one way or the other From the sponsors, if cared about that or not. I'm certainly no monetary sponsor, and probably should not use myself as a model, but if I were, I would be sponsoring Debconf because my company benefits significantly From Debian as a distribution. Either because it is a core business, or makes up critical internal infrastructure. The existence of a logo, or not, would not matter to me because I saved 10 gazillion dollars because we switched to Debian, and I want to keep that savings around. -edrz (who never wears clothing with any visible printing in public ... I only wear my conference shirts when sleeping. That's irrelevant to this discussion because it doesn't matter to me whether the printing includes corporate logos or not. I just prefer to avoid being read or acting as a billboard for anyone or anything but myself. But, I'm most likely a very irrelevant corner case in that regard. I just parenthetically mention this to say that I am personally not invested in either side of the logo-ed vs logo-less DebConf shirt debate.) I wouldn't put yourself so far in the corner. I feel similarly. micah pgpsYbYzbiTUd.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Thanking our sponsors
Hi Micah, On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:31:40PM -0400, micah anderson wrote: My guess is the great DrDub, who has been doing an amazingly significant amount of work in discussing with sponsors and potential sponsors has discussed with them the relative merits of donating, and perhaps the perk of the logo on the shirt is part of that sell. It would be interesting to know if he has heard one way or the other From the sponsors, if cared about that or not. I'm certainly no monetary sponsor, and probably should not use myself as a model, but if I were, I would be sponsoring Debconf because my company benefits significantly From Debian as a distribution. Either because it is a core business, or makes up critical internal infrastructure. The existence of a logo, or not, would not matter to me because I saved 10 gazillion dollars because we switched to Debian, and I want to keep that savings around. I can assure you that, while you accurately describe the motivations and desires of some of our sponsors, other actual and potential sponsors do care about seeing their logo displayed on the shirts and in other cases. For them it's about getting publicity for their organization to an audience that might care about them, instead of giving back to Debian per se. Both types are useful sources of funding. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
