Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:31:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: And yes, next year I want a flag for each event (not) to be videoed. This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta. If there would only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ... Kind regards ANdreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:30:12AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:31:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: And yes, next year I want a flag for each event (not) to be videoed. This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta. If there would only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ... ...or for some alternative tool. Ana mentioned Penta being too complex and too buggy and proposed to switch (albeit that noone responded...) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJKbsssAAoJECx8MUbBoAEhhe8P/RpYJshOBC6K0/EnvFMWzaDK 53fv0WfhYFkKkmXm5xKzRzva/Xapc3ZpWWv9KrulWcNJ3AqYAs09DVogF7hBnO9T yPSC8S68Qh4HjAOQ5yP+faZc3KrBVa5QX+2lRKUKLy3Qibbze9XHyDovYxczQsh+ pO8g3LLWTKjTJowgfuxxJllt4t7jwoIyQUsYLiVio3d+spugUarEZHGm9eKdjEij kssMkREvkI5LX1RsiS936790muA5jT4a5G3F88cQ9X9GrxO9kflw7vN2A8sdkNuX MU2WkZUVay4SwB1cFl8MS8XXGMOhVDvy5hwdT9hGAPTUx/ryUtBtOLvPbnRdU6ln gqN1lyFY9FJsXhInUwGeN6NZGJuelCAhGNmYRr6vFeVbzTjzdxCLMe81K1uyUSRp fzb46dQLqqVf24tXJUue40A1GxIYCCEf8pT2VTjBPlL/CEAWYj8zAB+M6SpuomUP pHmvgD6HMpUw/JcYxfvONah68LtsYoP9FH65ovf3ZOuxAMFgsGAk8mJFYjQw5ctA Y/DVZVVk32hiKr/ASanMKtq8GxMEUs/g63o88PAofcB7WFjP0nxeBJqG/55m7BOF WregbSR4tbtdzNbZtK1PSChnDhCZCE7GQ7QUMTAZh5c8cEPkZmQE7sqRevmfyY+s +pR5M2e5nscbguLUx5Wi =Waon -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
Hello, On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:55 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:30:12AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:31:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: And yes, next year I want a flag for each event (not) to be videoed. This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta. If there would only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ... ...or for some alternative tool. Ana mentioned Penta being too complex and too buggy and proposed to switch (albeit that noone responded...) me Despite the fact that the tool may have some bugs (I don't use it enough to discuss that). I am really impressed with the feature coverage of Penta. Not having it would cause an important extra workload for the teams, IMHO (i.e collecting data, processing and publishing information, etc). /me BTW, Kudos to the teams involved in DC. Franklin ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:23:56PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Andreas Tilleandr...@an3as.eu wrote: This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta. If there would only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ... Upstream's bug tracker is http://github.com/nevs/pentabarf/issues and Debian's bug tracker is https://rt.debian.org/. Hmm - I suspect you meant https://rt.debconf.org/ No public access? - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJKbt4IAAoJECx8MUbBoAEhnRwP/iOroPXAwcK72Agar31DswJ8 hHcbwefjJlPfpdEdkOHejstC4LEp723h5FYblT/YERk/qTjvVm9i6OcKdtqMVYxM 0ThyuVTnCo5HWgnplUPPNXxAoVmLu5qLYv0H4jrWUioW07CS3FSMIyZ67420MaYk bG2JTTlqyCC//MjUTbwnsvt5y1F+wpE1iw8ytZlECsOqoCDOXd+LLyREfPP7ou88 iDciDrKp2armri4BWZBVSJPrDTl+TlRwggb3ZWmntUcaImboNcjYxQNtc6HUkfFW BiFmgg7cwSz1dc+Ltb/TCs9ZgT6Va1Zsz8PtccSCNssnVIcefsSwJZ6rT2JduB1z u7eDmabZmKouwB2M65S9v/++n5zlgTqZ2F0h2NzDLhuuSA3L7PgHi6vm4ozg4agw yTeYvAZUVWcsfQLL/0bGsoBl3Mw+/t6uyJshNvMU++fHkoUqTjcNSfVFYX1VY4c2 5Cg20TghRIA2UNBS62SaxmXy9+JMkKt0ut5RQUJ1SPdfHwdhS64rZzr+sil2RjDt KQUlKEtSVkq30LcZEkV0+pPIoK/ePRsFj5iJy/j6T5yyJtJwacQqmycM7bXUTSfE GF4TqU11n0QiTkvHOhFiZ+QGBDnqxSPg6kmaPvqLtfRwWllZAAM5K1IHKKtRcRD5 jn1Lv2AqOte8ka5J5ImZ =Sg0f -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
Hi, On Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...or for some alternative tool. Ana mentioned Penta being too complex and too buggy and proposed to switch (albeit that noone responded...) The proposal lacked an alternative to switch to. Suggesting to switch because foo sux without giving alternatives is not really helpful. (It is, when it's unknown that there are problems. Which is not the case here, we are very aware that penta has issues - we simply didnt find a working alternative yet.) One feature an alternative tool would need to have is the integration of our video workflow for releasing archived files. regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: ...or for some alternative tool. Ana mentioned Penta being too complex and too buggy and proposed to switch (albeit that noone responded...) The proposal lacked an alternative to switch to. Suggesting to switch because foo sux without giving alternatives is not really helpful. (It is, when it's unknown that there are problems. Which is not the case here, we are very aware that penta has issues - we simply didnt find a working alternative yet.) I'd like to try to frame this another way: We could use more people looking at and working penta, or a possible new conference management system. I think it's quite possible many possible volunteers have been shooed away because they think there work won't come to anything. One of the main reasons I've heard to consider moving to something else is so that more people can work on solving problems and adding new features, and handing off maintainership could be done more easily. Of course, getting new penta hackers, perhaps even merging all the debconf-specific changes to the latest penta version, would negate this advantage of a completely new system. In fact, someone in charge of working out the current problems (for the most part, handling user and team requests) and adding new features in penta would almost undoubtedly be better than something new. So it boils down to what we can do to get new people involved: Penta, or something new? Speaking of which, if anyone is interested in helping out here, I will help to make it happen (connecting you with the right people). I don't think I have the time or ability to do it myself, though. What do you all think? It seems to me whatever we can most easily get people to work on is a good compromise. One feature an alternative tool would need to have is the integration of our video workflow for releasing archived files. Yes -- can be solved with someone willing to put forth the effort to do so... - Richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - lefschetz: up 175 days, 9:55 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
Hi Holger, On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Holger Levsenhol...@layer-acht.org wrote: The proposal lacked an alternative to switch to. Suggesting to switch because foo sux without giving alternatives is not really helpful. I am willing to hack again on Pentabarf for Debconf10 (and probably Debconf11). Please ping me as soon as it is needed. Cheers, Torsten ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
Hi Torsten, On Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, Torsten Werner wrote: I am willing to hack again on Pentabarf for Debconf10 (and probably Debconf11). Great! Please ping me as soon as it is needed. Ping! Really, rt.debconf.org has quite some penta related bugs and I can easily show you more affected the ajax userinterface... regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:55:04PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Torsten, On Dienstag, 28. Juli 2009, Torsten Werner wrote: I am willing to hack again on Pentabarf for Debconf10 (and probably Debconf11). Great! Please ping me as soon as it is needed. Ping! Really, rt.debconf.org has quite some penta related bugs and I can easily show you more affected the ajax userinterface... As previously told to Steve Gran, I'm interested in doing this too, and am already set up with access to cletus as of when it comes back online and gets reintegrated with ud-ldap. With both Torsten and me working, I hope it can be much better by the time DC10 registration opens! - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights
On Sonntag, 26. Juli 2009, Ana Guerrero wrote: I think it is pretty clear for everybody that talks scheduled outside the official schedule and not in the upper/lower talk won't be recorded. it's not clear for everyone, yesterday there were videoteam memebers trying to capture madducks bof, simple because it was in the schedule and those team members werent in the team meeting were we decided to ignore stuff scheduled at food times... And yes, next year I want a flag for each event (not) to be videoed. regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss