Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2018-01-25 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 12/12/2017, Sean Whitton wrote: > Hello Russ, > > (I'm deliberately avoiding the term 'extrovert' because (i) I am really > not sure what it means; and (ii) I want to discuss a much more specific > dichotomy which is probably not all of extroversion, namely "those who > have no

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")"): > I'm not sure I have any great or insightful advice, but I think being a > bit cautious about the line between invitation and pushing is the most >

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Marc Haber writes ("Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")"): > the following is happily based on my personal feelings and my personal > experience. Please be sure not to generalize. ... > Feeling even a remote suggest

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Sean Whitton writes: > You, Russ, are someone with a great deal of self-knowledge: you know > when to make yourself scarce in order to avoid burnout. So I don't feel > particularly worried about the possibility that I imposed upon you. For the record, you definitely didn't. :) It helps for me

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-16 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Mark, On Wed, Dec 13 2017, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:03:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: >> >> Further, in my day-to-day life I am in a culture -- a university -- >> where the norm is to assume that nobody is uncomfortable talking to >> new people, and if they seem like

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-13 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, the following is happily based on my personal feelings and my personal experience. Please be sure not to generalize. On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 11:03:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > I am someone who has no real barriers talking to new people (except a > little when they have famous names like

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 08:32:07PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I think «has difficulty meeting new people» feels like a crude > approximation. To me, it depends a lot on the person and the context and > probably the time of day, the moon phase and the colour of the > neighbour's cat. I'm terri

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-12 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Sean Whitton Hi folks, > Given the above, at DebConf17 -- my first free software conference -- I > sometimes worried that I had imposed myself on others by > enthusiastically and expectantly introducing myself and asking them > about themselves. By 'expectantly' I mean that I approached them

Re: Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-12 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hey Sean On 12/12/2017 08:03, Sean Whitton wrote: > Given the above, at DebConf17 -- my first free software conference -- I > sometimes worried that I had imposed myself on others by > enthusiastically and expectantly introducing myself and asking them > about themselves. By 'expectantly' I mean

Being nice to introverts/the highly sensitive (was Re: "Breaking Cliques at Events")

2017-12-11 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Russ, On Mon, Dec 11 2017, Russ Allbery wrote: > A minor caveat here: for some people, it's a minor worry or discomfort > to meet other people and then it has a huge payoff, and for other > people, it's a larger emotional drain that can accumulate. > > I really enjoy Debconf when I make it