Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-03-21 01:13, Wookey wrote: > If that's wrong/out of date, then fair enough - I'll consider joining > you, That would be great! I found the information "somewhere on the internet", so neither am I sure, whether the connection still exists, nor can we be sure, that it will exist in around 1

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-03-21 01:19, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting W. Martin Borgert (2019-03-21 00:00:29) > > I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by > > train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Greece, a short > > bus trip to Lavrio, Greece, finally other ferry to Haifa. > > I'd

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
On 3/20/19 11:56 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here: > > If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are > a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better, > I think it's fai

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here: If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better, I think it's fair that DebConf committee ask to any countries outside Europe make Bids

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Wookey
On 2019-03-21 00:00 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > > trains, no ferries), > > I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by > train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus,

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Wookey dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:44:12PM +]: > True, and there is clearly a balance to be struck between encouraging > debian in new areas and optimising travel for existing > developers. After 5 years when debconf could only be attended with > intercontinental travel by European developers

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting W. Martin Borgert (2019-03-21 00:00:29) > On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > > trains, no ferries), > > I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by > train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Gre

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > trains, no ferries), I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Greece, a short bus trip to Lavrio, Greece, finally other ferry

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Louis-Philippe VĂ©ronneau
On 19-03-20 18 h 55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12) >> One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so >> there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to >> go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2019.03.20_17:42:34_+0200) > If you use numbers of DDs, we will always have DC in Europe :-) Well, yes and no. As DebConf is a volunteer organised event, we're at the mercy of the bids presented. Which means, if people want to have DebConfs in Europe, they need to organise them :) There

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12) > One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so > there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to > go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless we > wish to just pretend there is no climate eme

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Wookey
On 2019-03-20 12:42 -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > > > > But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is > > important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian > > Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India. > > And

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Rene Engelhard dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:05:35PM +0100]: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana > wrote: > > I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. > > Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for > >

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread rajudev
Daniel Lange writes: > Hi, > > Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana: >> I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee >> how it was on previous years > > We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. > There has been a two hour public bid r

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
On 3/20/19 12:27 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: Hi, > I'd love to have a DC in Portugal or in any other European country, this > is not my point. I just think that it doesn't make any sense to suggest > an European agenda for 2021 at this point, clearly risking to discourage > other interesti

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:46:18PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe. > > Are you proposing that, before see any Bid?? > Make no sense to me. If the Lisbon bid

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > > So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe. Are you proposing that, before see any Bid?? Make no sense to me. I prefer read all Bids before express my opinion about where should be DC21. Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 11:54 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > Hi, > > We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. Why? > The Indian team did not agree on a city and there was no sufficiently > completed bid for DC20 so they dropped out early. We're happy to receive > a competitive bid for DC21. Wel

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On 2019-03-20 11:05 a.m., Rene Engelhard wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for 2021." Neither is it de

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Daniel Lange
Hi, Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana: > I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee > how it was on previous years We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. There has been a two hour public bid review meeting cf.

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi, > > On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > > > > > > So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team: > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian > > Developer Conference 2020 in Hai

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. > Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for > 2021." Neither is it desirable for Developers or other attendees to have h

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > > > So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team: > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian > Developer Conference 2020 in Haifa! Congratulations to Israel team. I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebCo