Re: [DebConf18] About childcare

2018-05-18 Thread gavinlai
Sorry for the absence from the global meeting yesterday and any bad
experiences.
I want to correct some information, and say more for what I think.

# childcare request information
We have 4 or 5 children need childcare.

# sitter/children ratio
I know zumbi and zumbi’s wife are pleased to help childcare.
I’m totally appreciated and welcome for that.
However, I consider it is a support not a mandatory job.
When I calculate the sitter/children ratio I will take sitters into
calculation.

# Hiring people
Most sitter jobs I google in Taiwan are taking care of 2 children.
Also, I consulted a sitter matchmacking company last week.
For our case, the company suggested me for hiring 2 sitters.
The company also suggest to keep the ratio equal or lower than 1:3.
The benefit is the sitters can cover each other.

Further, the salary for sitter is only a bit higher than average.
I don’t think the sitter/child ratio can be way higher than normal cases.

I will keep the ratio below 1:3

I will make sure we think the hiring plan is fine, then I will start hiring.
At this moment, I plan to hire 2 people.
Besides, I will contact AndrewLee first.

# Deliver information
To make the communication more efficient, I will attend all the global
meetings.

For any questions, you can reach me via
- email: gavin...@debconf.org
- IRC: gavin or gavinlai
- leave questions on wiki
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/FAQ/Childcare

I will response as soon as possible.

BTW, thanks to medical wei, nattie, and szlin. They help me a lot!

Gavin Lai

2018-05-18 0:04 GMT+08:00 Yao Wei :

> Hi,
>
> During the meeting this week, zumbi asked that if that's odd to have 2-3
> people for 3-4 children as he feels bad if the childcare is for his
> children only (I personally believe not :P).
>
> Also, AndrewLee says that found another potential volunteer for
> childcare.
>
> Anything to follow up, zumbi?
>
> For meeting log please see:
>   http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2018/debconf-
> team.2018-05-17-14.29.log.html#l-189
>
> IMHO they should be paid if they requested so.  (Otherwise I think it
> could be unfair to all babysitters and nannies.)
>
> Yao Wei
>


Re: [DebConf18] Extending job fairs to 3 days (Open Day + 2 days in DebConf)

2018-05-18 Thread Daniel Lange
Am 18.05.2018 um 04:05 schrieb Yao Wei:
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 11:55:47PM +0800, Yao Wei wrote:
> Also one of the local sponsors asks that if we do something special to
> job fair, comparing to the sponsor booths of the following days.

Usually we make the job fair explicit in the schedule (so prevent
lectures to take place at the same time). That way everybody can attend
and there is a good crowd roaming around the job fair for three or so
hours. This is good for the attendees (not too explicit who's looking
for new employment and who's only casually chatting to people) and good
for the sponsors (good frequency, busy booths).

The sponsor booths on the contrary are just "there" where people pass
between lectures when changing rooms. They offer an opportunity for a
company to present their products or give away something to attendees in
return for interest in their company. We had this in all of the last
three years and as I said during the meeting yesterday, results are
mixed. The Luzbot (Aleph Objects) people (booth manned by a community
member) in South Africa had great frequency for multiple days as the
produced Debian logos in 3D and people were generally interested in 3D
printing and their products. The SFL people in Canada had great
frequency as they have a very good connection to the local community so
many people came around to chat and they had T-Shirts to give away, too.
The Purism people (also in Canada) demoed their laptops which made their
sponsors booth rather full for any time between lectures or around
lunch. They also agreed deals there with other companies / community
projects so for them it seems to have been a very successful participation.

Now other booths didn't work so well, I won't name these companies but
there have been some (esp. during DC15) which were at some point not
even manned (or womanned) by their own employees anymore because they
got so bored with standing around having nothing to show and nothing to
give out.

So the story here is: For three hours with the common topic of "would we
want to work together" (job fair) and table with a logo and two nice
people works and gets us a positive experience for the attendees and the
sponsors.

A multiple-day sponsors booth needs to have a reason to exist that works
for our attendees or it will be a very boring place and produce a
frustrated (and thus likely not coming back) sponsor. So we should
prevent that from happening.

So if people have a plan to usefully fill days, happily give them a
booth to inform, entertain, feed our attendees for these days. But if
they just want to show their logo and a few product flyers save them the
embarrassment and make it only a booth on open day (in addition to the
job fair time).

Best regards,
Daniel