Re: Exim4 in Debian?

2024-04-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le ven. 26 avril 2024 11:31:35 -0700, a ecrit: > And just curious, are their any Debian distros which have later > kernels like Arch? You cannot have the latest bleeding edge without bleeding. Really, leave a bit of time to software, and you'll suffer less. Samuel

Re: Exim4 in Debian?

2024-04-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chime Hart, le ven. 26 avril 2024 10:23:33 -0700, a ecrit: > I am noticing here in Debian SID that packages I use > regularly are mysteriously vanishing. SID is what it is: unstable. At the moment there is a huge upgrade to 64bit time_t which makes various packages non-installable, and

Re: [BRLTTY] Graphical BRLTTY running but not used in terminals

2024-03-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le mar. 26 mars 2024 13:40:48 +0100, a ecrit: > I think what mislead me is that, although the braille rendering isdone > by BRLTTY, there continues to be a speech rendering which, I think, _is_ > done by Orca. That's entirely possible, since Orca doesn't even know that brltty

Re: [BRLTTY] Graphical BRLTTY running but not used in terminals

2024-03-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sébastien Hinderer, le mar. 26 mars 2024 12:00:58 +0100, a ecrit: > I think my graphical Mate terminals are rendered by Orca, whereas I do > see a graphical BRLTTY process, run with the command > > /bin/brltty -b ba -s no -x a2 -N > > I assume there is a priroity issue between two BrlAPI

Re: best way to change speakup defaults in debian automatically when the system boots into console mode

2024-03-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle wrote: > Samuel, would it be a good idea to add a check for the existence of > speakupconf in the espeakup systemd unit, and if it exists, load the config? Ideally it'd stay within the speakup-tools package. And we need to make sure this gets started at the proper time, i.e. not

orca 46 beta

2024-02-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 beta to experimental. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: Please test brltty 6.6-4+exp1 from experimental

2024-02-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le dim. 18 févr. 2024 01:32:35 +0100, a ecrit: > I have uploaded to experimental version 6.6-4+exp1 of brltty that does > so, it works for me but better get more tests before uploading to > unstable, so please help with this :) Sebastien reminds me that you nee

Please test brltty 6.6-4+exp1 from experimental

2024-02-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, With Trixie supporting only merged-usr systems, we have to move files to /usr in the packages themselves. I have uploaded to experimental version 6.6-4+exp1 of brltty that does so, it works for me but better get more tests before uploading to unstable, so please help with this :) Samuel

Re: Dialog for dpkg-based package configuration

2024-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le jeu. 08 févr. 2024 17:56:54 +0100, a ecrit: > On my system for daily use, I can use dialog-based configuration UIs just fine > (BRLTTY). It was installed using the accessible Debian installer. > An example is `dpkg-reconfigure locales'. > > However, in a cloud

Re: I Am Trying to File A Bug?

2024-02-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chime Hart, le mer. 31 janv. 2024 19:51:22 -0800, a ecrit: > Hi All: As I was working through reportbug, it asks me for tags? Well, no > matter how I write them, How did you try to write them? > Maybe instead of a cryptic "invalid entry" it would be > more helpful mentioning what items

Re: Accessible terminal output

2024-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Niels Thykier, le sam. 27 janv. 2024 23:10:08 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault: > > One thing that is important for the screen reader to know what to render > > is to put the caret on the item that matters. > > I have trouble with this one. Can you provide an ex

Re: Accessible terminal output

2024-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Giving a very small answer here. Niels Thykier, le sam. 27 janv. 2024 22:18:23 +0100, a ecrit: > Like should the tool disable > ANSI color and boldface output to avoid creating confusing output? Screen readers just ignore colors & bold/italic :) One thing that is important for the

Re: brltty input monitor error 19

2024-01-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Colomban Wendling, le mer. 24 janv. 2024 12:54:36 +0100, a ecrit: > A client of mine is having trouble with brltty sometimes heavily spamming > the logs with "braille input monitor error 19: No such device", and I'm > wondering what this could actually mean is the trouble. I'd say ask the

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 16:47:09 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 21.01.2024, 11:43 +0100: > >Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > >> Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >> >I have uploaded

Re: orca 46 alpha

2024-01-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le dim. 21 janv. 2024 11:33:42 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 20.01.2024, 23:35 +0100: > >I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to > >have improved performance a lot through using cache.o > Sounds great, thanks for givi

orca 46 alpha

2024-01-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded orca 46 alpha to experimental. It is notably said to have improved performance a lot through using cache. It also got significant rewrites to clear the code, so there may be regressions ahead. So please test and report to the orca list ;) Samuel

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 15:04:22 +0200, a ecrit: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:42:29 +0200, a ecrit: > > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > > Geoff Shang, le

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:42:29 +0200, a ecrit: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:26:49 +0200, a ecrit: > > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > > > This c

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geoff Shang, le mar. 02 janv. 2024 15:33:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, 1 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Geoff Shang, le lun. 01 janv. 2024 18:39:33 +0200, a ecrit: > > > On Sun, 31 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > >

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geoff Shang, le lun. 01 janv. 2024 18:39:33 +0200, a ecrit: > On Sun, 31 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Frank Carmickle, le ven. 29 déc. 2023 20:46:21 -0500, a ecrit: > > > On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > > #4 0x7fbe

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le ven. 29 déc. 2023 20:46:21 -0500, a ecrit: > On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Geoff Shang, le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 19:39:42 +0200, a ecrit: > >> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > This is showing that it's alsa

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Geoff Shang, le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 19:39:42 +0200, a ecrit: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > thread apply all bt full > > > > :) > > OK, you got it. > > This produced 20 kb of output, so I've attached it. Let me know if anyon

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Geoff Shang, le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 18:50:52 +0200, a ecrit: > On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > All we need now is the full > > > > thread apply bt full > > > > to get the most available information. > > Earlier you said to use >

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 21 déc. 2023 08:39:31 -0500, a ecrit: > On Dec 20, 2023, at 18:34, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > James Addison, le mer. 20 déc. 2023 23:03:33 +, a ecrit: > >> sthibault: do you think this could be related to > >> https://github.c

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
James Addison, le mer. 20 déc. 2023 23:03:33 +, a ecrit: > sthibault: do you think this could be related to > https://github.com/linux-speakup/espeakup/pull/48 ? Possibly. Testing would give a definite answer. > > > It took me a couple of goes, and I lost speech entirely both times (not > >

Re: Embossing via cups, braille translation does not work

2023-12-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le mar. 19 déc. 2023 08:22:11 +0100, a ecrit: > Where can I access the logs to see where the translation possibly fails? In > /var/log/cups/{error|access}.log is nothing useful. That's the place, but you'll want to raise in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf the LogLevel to debug.

Re: debian testing iso install in franch: mate desktop is in English

2023-12-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jérémy Prego, le ven. 15 déc. 2023 19:45:05 +0100, a ecrit: > a friend and I installed a debian testing from the iso available here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ > > When you choose French, and install the mate desktop, the graphical >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, This is all very odd. Jason J.G. White, le mar. 14 nov. 2023 08:56:27 -0500, a ecrit: > > On 14/11/23 08:35, Christian Schoepplein wrote: > > After installing the two gir packages with the fix from your personal repo > > all things are good again: > > You'll need to mark the

Re: Request for archive data

2023-11-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Shrabani Ghosh, le jeu. 09 nov. 2023 15:48:17 -0500, a ecrit: > I am Shrabani Ghosh, a PhD student. I would like to request to give me > directions for downlaoding Debian mailing list archives. > I would create a graph from the mailing list for my research purpose. You should probably

Re: Will be the new Raspberry pi os accessible under Wayland?

2023-10-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Pavel Vlček, le lun. 23 oct. 2023 10:39:34 +0200, a ecrit: > will this version be accessible with Orca? As much as Orca can access applications with wayland, yes: there will be e.g. the missing keyboard handling, coordinates positioning, etc. Now, whether Raspberry pi OS enables

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Interesting... So it's tmux as source which poses problem, for whatever reason. And you don't have a /etc/tmux.conf or a ~/.config/tmux/tmux.conf? Christian Schoepplein, le mer. 25 oct. 2023 09:50:26 +0200, a ecrit: > If I open a tmux session and copy multiline content from this session

Re: Location of liblouis translation tables

2023-10-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le mer. 25 oct. 2023 18:05:41 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 25.10.2023, 14:22 +0200: > >Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 16 oct. 2023 02:16:34 +0200, a ecrit: > >> Any ideas? > > > >It seems some changes in the tables file broke cups-fi

Re: Location of liblouis translation tables

2023-10-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, le lun. 16 oct. 2023 02:16:34 +0200, a ecrit: > I've set up the cups filters to print with my Index Everest V5. > The Cups interface shows an error when I try to print: > "Could not find LibLouis table with locale de_DE" > I've installed these packages: > liblouis-bin

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Please answer all questions :) What do you get when you paste into another graphical application such as pluma or gedit? And conversely when pasting into tmux? Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 24 oct. 2023 17:07:59 +0200, a ecrit: > I've also tested it with the new show flatview contents

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 22 oct. 2023 22:36:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen f

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 10 oct. 2023 12:46:21 +0200, a ecrit: > The issue is with copying content via the cliphboard feature of brltty if I > am inside a tmux session which I need to use very ofthen for my daily job. > > The original content I like to copy looks like this: > >

Re: Mac mini 2014 will not show Debian installer grub menu.

2023-10-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Note that you need to select the graphical boot entry in order to get speech support. Beeping might not be supported on the mac mini, but if it's grub, the "s" shortcut should be working. Samuel

Re: Unable to install Debian 12 in dark mode

2023-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le jeu. 19 oct. 2023 12:20:35 +0200, a ecrit: > I boot it up, when boot menu comes up, i selected dark mode (4. og 5. > option) and then the graphical installer front end. Ok. > Then i navigate around urisng the arrows, but when i get to where i select > the

Re: Problems with cursor routing and copy/paste in BRLTTY

2023-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Odd Martin Baanrud, le mer. 18 oct. 2023 14:45:05 +0200, a ecrit: > > On 29 Sep 2023, at 23:41, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Linux indeed broke TIOCSTI for brltty. The fix is under way, it'll get > > into Debian 12's backport eventually (linux 6.4.8). > > Do yo

Re: Unable to install Debian 12 in dark mode

2023-10-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Kenneth Schack Banner, le mar. 17 oct. 2023 21:45:17 +0200, a ecrit: > I wanted to install Debian 12 on a Intel NUC Celeron N5105, but seems to > have hit a wall during installation. > > When i get to the point where i can choose a desktop enoviremt, ssh server, > internet service etc. i

Re: Braille does not follow cursor in Mate Terminal

2023-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jason White, le mer. 11 oct. 2023 13:15:25 -0400, a ecrit: > On 11/10/23 10:50, Patrick ZAJDA wrote: > > If I open a terminal and move the review cursor, I have the content read > > by voice as expected but braille does not follow, on my braille display > > content stays the same. > >

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-10-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 06 oct. 2023 20:52:20 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 02:27:41AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > >I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an > >improved patch. Could people try it? I have also up

Re: Problems with cursor routing and copy/paste in BRLTTY

2023-09-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Odd Martin Baanrud, le ven. 29 sept. 2023 23:03:22 +0200, a ecrit: > I’m running Debian 12, with backports enabled. > For some time, cursor routing and copy/paste in BRLTTY has not worked. > When I press a cursor routing key, or try to paste something from the BRLTTY > buffer, I get the

Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mar. 26 sept. 2023 08:20:31 -0600, a ecrit: > I'm still very confused by all this. > Is this an Oracle issue or an Ubuntu issue or a Debian Java maintainer > issue. It really is an Oracle issue, and Debian/Ubuntu has brown-tape-fixed it since Oracle wasn't understanding the issue.

Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mar. 26 sept. 2023 11:30:13 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel wrote that ubuntu has removed a patch which is needed to load > atk-wrapper into jre. > > openjdk-17 has the mentioned issue > openjdk-19-jre:amd64 works as expected regarding atk-wrapper. > tested on a machine running ubuntu

Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mar. 19 sept. 2023 08:15:35 -0600, a ecrit: > But I think you will be more likely to get that if you can clearly > articulate the situation. The simple answer is that it just does not work when using the debian- (or ubuntu-) provided packages. And that is the scenario that I was

Re: java atk wrapper in bookworm

2023-09-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le mar. 19 sept. 2023 11:23:08 +0200, a ecrit: > After bookworm was released something is wrong on my machine or in bookworm. > When I enable > assistive_technologies=org.GNOME.Accessibility.AtkWrapper > in accessibility.properties > My Application doesn't start any more. > The error

Re: Should accessibility Blend kept on Debian web pages

2023-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Andreas Tille, le dim. 17 sept. 2023 07:57:41 +0200, a ecrit: > It mentions Debian Accessibility as upcoming Blend. While I notice > you are regularly your tasks files in Git these packages were never > released. I think you mentioned before that this is not really the > plan Yes, since

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 14:07:35 +0200, a ecrit: > Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. > > into > > another terminal, and then switch b

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 10:38:02 +0200, a ecrit: > But I noticed another thing. When I switch away from the terminal, e.g. into > another terminal, and then switch back into the terminal with the translate > command everything looks good and the output is in a seperate line.

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: > The following command displays > the output in a long line instead dividing it into seperate lines: > > translate -i occure On my system it does output Vorkommen {n} (von etw.) [min.] | Erdölvorkommen {n} | Vorkommen [...]

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le mar. 12 sept. 2023 09:02:40 +0200, a ecrit: > But there are still a few problematic things: Are these regressions over the previous state? Not that I don't want to fix them, but I want to get something committed so we can make some progress, even if not perfect

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 11:38:26 +0200, a ecrit: > A way to rupture the console is to update the packages on a system with apt. > The progress line at the bottom seems to trigger the unwanted behaviour very > reproducable :-). I know, that was the original testcase that

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 09:21:38 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 11/09/2023 à 09:01, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > > I noticed a small problem > > > > > > 1. when you open a large file usin

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 11:38:26 +0200, a ecrit: > Just out of curiosity: Is the problem related to libvte in general or is it > related to the version in Debian? It's completely a vte bug. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 09:21:38 +0200, a ecrit: > Le 11/09/2023 à 09:01, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > > Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: > > > I noticed a small problem > > > > > > 1. when you open a large file usin

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: > I noticed a small problem > > 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go > down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the > line before reading the whole line. Is this a

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/ Please test so we can at last get this fixed! Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 05 sept. 2023 00:08:33 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:59:05 +0200, a ecrit: > > I'm on it. > > So, as usual it's the combination of two issues that were producing the > odd behavior. > [...] > So, long story short:

Re: orca_45~alpha-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2023-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 45 RC is now in experimental, for more testing. Samuel Samuel Thibault, le dim. 06 août 2023 23:07:25 +0200, a ecrit: > Hello, > > I have uploaded the 45-alpha version of orca to experimental, for people > to test and report issues to the orca mailing list. > > Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chevelle, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 20:27:08 -0400, a ecrit: >     Thanks Samuel.  The ORCA Debian package only has xbrlapi as Reccomends.  > There doesn't seem to be any warning by ORCA so if xbrlapi isn't installed > the unsuspecting user has a Braille display that doesn't work properly.  > Should

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:59:05 +0200, a ecrit: > I'm on it. So, as usual it's the combination of two issues that were producing the odd behavior. What was happening is that with xbrlapi installed but brltty-x11 not installed, the xbrlapi startup script would try to run brl

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:52:11 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 22:42 +0200): > > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), > > > > That makes a huge diffe

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:27:57 +0200, a ecrit: > Upgrade: xbrlapi:amd64 (6.5-7, 6.6-2), That makes a huge difference, that's why I was asking for versions. In versions before 6.6-1, the xbrlapi package was trying to start brltty with a ba driver and an a2 driver, only to fail

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 22:02:48 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:28 +0200): > > Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > > > So the behavior you expe

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:39:07 +0200, a ecrit: > Ok but at this point which is the exactly the main function of brltty-x11? Providing a brltty-like experience wherever it can on the graphical desktop. Yes that's not very precise, because the details are dense. Samuel

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sébastien Hinderer, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:16:47 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault (2023/09/04 21:01 +0200): > > So the behavior you expect is not actually implemented by Orca, it's the > > a2 screen driver that takes precedence in the text fields > > Well I am unsur

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 21:12:44 +0200, a ecrit: > When I am in a browser and navitate with pan key, when I encounter an > unordered or ordered list, the braille display stay on the first item and do > not go on te following. > > To go to the next item I have to press down arrow

Re: [orca] Re: Braille navigation issues with Orca 44.1

2023-09-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
6.5 which is in ubuntu 23.04. But I discovered this problem > also in debian buster and bullseye with brltty 6.3. > > > Roberto Burceni > > Il 04/09/23 19:01, Samuel Thibault ha scritto: > > Roberto Burceni, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 18:51:50 +0200, a ecrit: > > > I

Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal

2023-09-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexander Epaneshnikov, le lun. 04 sept. 2023 00:08:42 +0300, a ecrit: > in order to return this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm > should occur in libvte or in orca? In vte. Diff algorithms should be done as early as possible to avoid overflowing the rest. Samuel

Re: lesson learned

2023-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mer. 23 août 2023 18:03:17 -0400, a ecrit: > All I can tell you on that score was when I booted the machine I never > heard the grub beep. So it wasn't booting at all, thus not an accessibility issue, but an uefi/grub/lvm issue. Samuel

Re: lesson learned

2023-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, le mar. 22 août 2023 21:00:14 -0400, a ecrit: > I got that system installed fine, but once booted never got > a screen reader to come up and speak. But was it booting at all? If not, this is not an accessibility issue (I don't see how it could), and should be reported to

Re: Choppy speech fixed when updating from bullseye to bookworm

2023-08-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sukil Etxenike arizaleta, le dim. 13 août 2023 09:59:19 +0200, a ecrit: > > El 13/08/2023 a las 0:37, Samuel Thibault escribió: > > Samuel Thibault, le dim. 13 août 2023 00:35:37 +0200, a ecrit: > > > Subject says it all, it seems I only needed to update the apt so

Re: Choppy speech fixed when updating from bullseye to bookworm

2023-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 13 août 2023 00:35:37 +0200, a ecrit: > Subject says it all, it seems I only needed to update the apt sources to a yet > not released version. The choppy speech is entirely gone. Was it the speech-dispatcher upgrade that fixed things? > Now the espeak-ng comm

Fwd: Choppy speech fixed when updating from bullseye to bookworm

2023-08-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
From: Sukil Etxenike arizaleta via Pkg-a11y-devel Hi, Subject says it all, it seems I only needed to update the apt sources to a yet not released version. The choppy speech is entirely gone. Now the espeak-ng command fails to speak until I restart espeakup (I have espeakup running on startup,

Re: [BRLTTY] 6.6 has been released.

2023-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I had uploaded it to debian unstable. It'll enter testing in a few days. Samuel

Re: Choppy speech when using espeak and espeakup on a Raspberry Pi

2023-08-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sukil Etxenike arizaleta, le sam. 05 août 2023 19:10:17 +0200, a ecrit: > I am experiencing choppy speech when running espeakup and also when > running espeak on its own, but not when generating wave files and > playing them with aplay. I'd say this should be discussed with upstream

Re: orca_45~alpha-1_source.changes ACCEPTED into experimental

2023-08-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I have uploaded the 45-alpha version of orca to experimental, for people to test and report issues to the orca mailing list. Samuel

Re: OT Re: Installing Voxin Eloquence Broke Speakup?

2023-08-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 03 août 2023 11:56:48 -0400, a ecrit: > John Doe or whatever your real name is, It does not matter whether this is his real name or not, he has always been called John Doe here and there, and that is what does matter. > Go crawl into a hole, and hopefully that

Re: newer version of libatspi for Bookworm?

2023-07-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chevelle, le ven. 21 juil. 2023 10:51:53 -0400, a ecrit: > Is it possible libatspi2.48.3 or newer will make it to Bookworm or Bookworm > backports any time soon? bookworm-backports has opened only today, and not even announced officially, allow me the time to react :) Samuel

Re: Kernel Header Error

2023-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
> Please install the linux-headers-5.10.0-23-686 package, Samuel

Re: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Which softwares to install ?

2023-06-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
LibreFaso, le mar. 27 juin 2023 18:42:22 +, a ecrit: > Anyway, I recently met one guy of Hypra and he told me that their layer of > accessibility (which constitutes the core of what they bring to their users) > is on debian.hypra.fr > I'd like to put it on the computer but I don't understand

Re: Cursor routing not longer working with kernel 6.3 on Debian testing

2023-06-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 23 juin 2023 16:37:45 +0200, a ecrit: > Is this a known issue with kernel 6.3? Unfortunately, yes: TIOCSTI poses security problems so it got disabled by default. I had warned at that time that it was needed for accessibility and proposed solutions, but

Re: Bookworm: BRLTTY constantly logs errors

2023-06-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chevelle, le ven. 16 juin 2023 10:52:57 -0400, a ecrit: > I view the system log with 'journalctl -e' there are repeating errors.  > Possibly it can't find yxa2.so. Oops. Are you actually using a braille device? If so, install the brlttyx11 package (and I wonder how it didn't get

Re: How is unstable for dayly use?

2023-06-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chime Hart, le mer. 14 juin 2023 18:42:40 -0700, a ecrit: > Hi Samuel: Is their an English-Language version of that item? Sorry, I didn't realize I pasted the french version. Of course there's the original english version:

Re: How is unstable for dayly use?

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chime Hart, le mer. 14 juin 2023 15:43:52 -0700, a ecrit: > I get this message about BookWorm non-free changing its name. Release notes are there to be read. https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.fr.html#non-free-split Samuel

Re: How is unstable for dayly use?

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cleverson Casarin Uliana, le mer. 14 juin 2023 16:50:04 -0300, a ecrit: > that Orca in particular is still at version 43.1 in both Unstable and > Testing, while it's 44.1 in the experimental version. Since 44.1 was > released around one month ago, As a reminder, we have released Debian 12 only

Re: to root or not to root

2023-06-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
K0LNY, le jeu. 01 juin 2023 22:41:56 -0500, a ecrit: > I noticed that su - did not work for me, I had to do sudo su -. > I don't know if this was because I didn't install a root account. Yes, that's it. "su -" is meant to switch to another account by using its password. But if that other account

Re: speakup configuration settings

2023-05-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
K0LNY, le mar. 30 mai 2023 18:04:18 -0500, a ecrit: > But in my Debian 11.7, it seems that there is no speakupconf available. > Is that right? > Do I need to install it for it to be there? $ apt-file search bin/speakupconf speakup-tools: /usr/bin/speakupconf Samuel

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

2023-05-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le dim. 28 mai 2023 22:33:44 -0400, a ecrit: > It should be an explicit choice to have a configured Debian Command Line > Interface (CLI) Text Mode. IIRC, I already explained here that this can be implemented as a "task" in the installer. It is thus a matter of somebody

Re: Installing Open Media Vault

2023-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, K0LNY, le lun. 22 mai 2023 16:29:45 -0500, a ecrit: > [1]https://www.openmediavault.org/ > But when I launch the ISO in VmWare, I get the computer beep, and the > soundcard > is checked in the attached devices, so I know the VM has access to audio, but > I > have tried pressing S and I

Re: a usible desktop

2023-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, K0LNY_Glenn, le lun. 01 mai 2023 18:59:27 -0500, a ecrit: > I installed gnome-session-flashback > and that was a little better, but all the above issues persist. > I installed unity-session-desktop > or something like that, and it isn't much better. You'll probably want to install the

Re: colors and fonts of debconf etc., a suitable xterm, vt

2023-04-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Wales, le sam. 08 avril 2023 14:15:42 -0700, a ecrit: > On 4/8/23, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > You can paste with shift-insert. > > this does not paste. It does in my rxvt. Note that it pastes the selection buffer, not the cut buffer. Samuel

Re: colors and fonts of debconf etc., a suitable xterm, vt

2023-04-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Wales, le ven. 07 avril 2023 21:27:05 -0700, a ecrit: > having trouble pasting into it as i cannot push a scroll wheel well. You can paste with shift-insert. > > setterm -foreground yellow > > > > that will show up as orange. > > where do i put this? .profile ends up having it work

Re: colors and fonts of debconf etc., a suitable xterm, vt

2023-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Wales, le lun. 03 avril 2023 17:42:24 -0700, a ecrit: > in various places, such as debconf, there is a tui in debian that is > blue, grey, and red, with black text. > > e.g. dpkg-reconfigure sometimes uses it. i have a lot of trouble with > blue and some trouble with the

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le lun. 20 mars 2023 16:31:54 -0400, a ecrit: > I've reported this before, and I believe we had a fix for it. I don't remember what issue you refer to. Samuel

Re: debian installer accessibility for arm64

2023-03-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 09 mars 2023 13:24:10 -0500, a ecrit: > -device ich9-intel-hda -device hda-duplex Ok, I tried it and it worked here. Possibly there is something different in UTM vs qemu in Debian. Samuel

Re: debian installer accessibility for arm64

2023-03-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frank Carmickle, le mer. 08 mars 2023 08:23:27 -0500, a ecrit: > > On Mar 7, 2023, at 19:18, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Frank Carmickle, le mer. 15 févr. 2023 11:22:02 -0500, a ecrit: > >>> Samuel Thibault, le lun. 13 févr. 2023 22:41:16 +0100, a ecrit: > >>>

Re: debian installer accessibility for arm64

2023-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le mer. 15 févr. 2023 11:22:02 -0500, a ecrit: > On Feb 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Samuel Thibault, le lun. 13 févr. 2023 22:41:16 +0100, a ecrit: > >> Frank Carmickle, le dim. 12 févr. 2023 21:07:14 -0500, a ecrit: > >

Re: Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 2 release

2023-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, D.J.J. Ring, wrote: > I used the text installer to install speech, but no speech was heard > during installation. Usually that is because the firmware hasn't been > included. The old "non-free" images worked fine before, but I guess > not all the firmware that was in the "non-free"

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