vmg now in jessie and stretch

2016-06-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I eventually took the time to package vmg, the virtual magnifying glass, which seems to be quite convenient for some magnification uses. It is available in stretch (the current testing), but a backport just got accepted in jessie-backports, so you can pick it up from there too. Samuel

Bug#827741: libatk-wrapper-java: File selection dialog not refreshed when changing directory

2016-06-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + patch upstream Control: reassign -1 openjdk-7 Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 openjdk-8 Control: clone -1 -3 Control: reassign -3 openjdk-9 Hello, Raphaël Hertzog, on Mon 20 Jun 2016 14:11:41 +0200, wrote: > I got a new report of a problem related to

Bug#826542: gnome-orca: DM wrapper not removed when deinstalling package

2016-06-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, on Mon 06 Jun 2016 14:17:14 +0200, wrote: > > /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf > > gnome-orca never installs this configuration file. > > I am guessing it was either manually created, or created by some part of > the accessible installation. Ah, yes, that's

Bug#822612: python3-pyatspi: depends on libatk-adaptor and libgail-common

2016-06-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, on Wed 01 Jun 2016 23:25:51 +0200, wrote: > On 26/04/16 02:07, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, on Mon 25 Apr 2016 17:48:02 +0200, wrote: > >> Do you think demoting libgail-common and libatk-adaptor to Recommends would > >

Bug#825971: ITP: vmg -- Virtual Magnifying Glass

2016-05-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> * Package name: vmg Version : 3.7.1 Upstream Author : Harri Pyy, Chris O'Donnell, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho * URL : http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/ * License :

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Christian Schoepplein, on Sun 22 May 2016 22:48:09 +0200, wrote: > BTW., I'd like to give GNOME3 a try. But because I need my machine for > daily work it would be interesting if I can install the gnome packages > without making my MATE environment unuseable. Is this working? Yes. Just

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Sun 22 May 2016 22:33:49 +0200, wrote: > Also, is there a guide for blind people new to gnome3, teaching how the > interface is working? If there is one, we need to point to it from > the debian accessibility wiki. Thinking again, I still wouldn't set gnome3 b

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, on Mon 23 May 2016 00:30:49 +0200, wrote: > And, I also question intuitivity: If such documentation is necessary, > the system isn't really inherently "accessible" from a usability > stand-point. Put in other words, why is such documentation even > necessary. Well, just like it was

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
(Note: everything I'm talking about is for upstream maintainers, not Debian maintainers, I'm just (ab)using the debian mailing list to get a somehow coherent view from actual users on the issue) Samuel

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, on Sun 22 May 2016 21:56:00 +0200, wrote: > What I am trying to say is, if a desktop wants to provide Accessibility > that is actually useful to users, they will have to invest more time > into it then they currently are willing to do. Well, perhaps it's not a question of time, but of

Re: MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on Sun 22 May 2016 06:22:09 -0500, wrote: > I am also wondering if it has something to do with pulseaudio and the > issues with running both orca and espeakup at the same time? Nick > Gawronski Not, that technical issue is not really related with the question of gnome vs

MATE chosen by default instead of gnome for blind people [Was: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release]

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote: > * brltty: > - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i. > * espeakup: > - Install MATE desktop by default when espeakup is used in d-i. This change has triggered discussion on the debian-boot IRC

Re: Debian Installer Stretch Alpha 6 release

2016-05-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Just to emphasize the items for accessibility, as listed below. feedback, bug reports, and suggestions are always welcome :) Cyril Brulebois, on Sat 21 May 2016 23:13:17 +0200, wrote: > * brltty: > - Install MATE desktop by default when brltty is used in d-i. > - Disable

Re: debian-installer issues with no wireless network connection after a text based Jessie installation

2016-05-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, on Fri 20 May 2016 19:18:56 -0400, wrote: > bash history comes to the rescue! > > wget -bc --max-redirect=1 --trust-server-names >

Re: debian-installer issues with no wireless network connection after a text based Jessie installation

2016-05-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, on Fri 20 May 2016 19:00:17 -0400, wrote: > the whole espeakup dependency stack is missing from that dvd and I suspect > all other firmware dvd's. ?! I've just tried 8.0.0, and I had espeakup working. Where did you download it exactly? How did you boot it exactly? Samuel

Re: kde accessibility testing

2016-05-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jude DaShiell, on Wed 11 May 2016 16:40:06 -0400, wrote: > If debian offers a kde-plasma iso, would it be possible to get the entire > orca dependency stack installed on that iso? The standard Debian installation media can install KDE (by selecting it during installation). Starting from

Re: "Please type enter to use this sound board" in d-i?

2016-05-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on Tue 17 May 2016 02:31:04 +0200, wrote: > so I'm going to suppose this is a desired behaviour, cycling across > sound boards to get some user feedback as to the one which needs to be > used for the installation process. Yes, it is. Thanks for your testing, Samuel

Re: Does anybody really use the dots package?

2016-04-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on Sat 30 Apr 2016 17:28:41 -0500, wrote: > If it is removed and someone later wishes to work on it again can it > be added again? Sure. We just don't want to ship broken packages in Debian releases. Samuel

Bug#822857: Fwd: Bug#822857: at-spi2-core: doesn't clean up legacy directory properly

2016-04-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, on Thu 28 Apr 2016 14:51:59 +0100, wrote: > If you haven't modified the conffile, the *next* upgrade of the package > will clean up the empty directory. Ok, that's what I was thinking, and was indeed considering just leaving the issue since on the long run it'll auto-heal. Samuel

Re: process for getting festival working with speech-dispatcher and speechd-up

2016-04-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on Fri 01 Apr 2016 20:40:54 -0500, wrote: > What would it take for someone to write the proper documents on how > to get either festival and pico running and how to switch between > synthesizers on a system level? Well, time, simply? Contributions are always welcome on

Bug#818241: brltty: Unstable brltty

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, on Tue 15 Mar 2016 01:34:02 +0100, wrote: > If I install from brltty-nonsystemd, here's what I get (attach). > And I experience the bug. > > If I install from szstemd, everything is good (install process, plus > running at boot and so on). Ok, so the missing systemd

Re: BRLTTY: errorneous systemd unit

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sebastian Humenda, on Wed 09 Mar 2016 10:28:07 +0100, wrote: > after the recent BRLTTY upgrade (in testing), the systemd unit for BRLTTY > seems > broken. I guess this is related with Bug#818241 that Jean-Philippe has just submitted. Could you also try the +b2-systemd package from

Bug#818241: brltty: Unstable brltty

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Tue 15 Mar 2016 00:52:07 +0100, wrote: > I'm building two brlttys, with the same package set except > libsystemd-dev, to confirm that this makes the difference. I have uploaded them to http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/ Please try both the +b2-nosystemd and +b2-s

Bug#818241: brltty: Unstable brltty

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, on Tue 15 Mar 2016 00:48:57 +0100, wrote: > hmmm I note a problem. One PID stays, brltty. But another > appears/disappears blinking: /sbin/brltty --no-daemon Ok. I guess they are competing with each other. So the issue is actually that the brltty run by systemd doesn't

Bug#818241: brltty: Unstable brltty

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
One thing which is notably different between 5.3.1-1 and 5.3.1-1+b1 is that 5.3.1-1 depends on libsystemd while 5.3.1-1+b1 does not. Mario, had you checked in a pbuilder for the build dependencies? Samuel

Bug#818241: brltty: Unstable brltty

2016-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, on Mon 14 Mar 2016 23:59:15 +0100, wrote: > I updated my testing, and now use 5.3.1-1+b1 (instead of 5.3.1-1). You forgot to mention explicitly that you tried to downgrade to 5.3.1-1 again, and then it did work fine, so the culprit is really the 5.3.1-1+b1 version.

Re: Bug#816682: live-installer: Inaccessible utility

2016-03-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Iain R. Learmonth, on Tue 08 Mar 2016 11:17:43 +, wrote: > On 08/03/16 01:16, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Samuel Thibault wrote: > >> - adding the content of libgail-common-udeb and libatk-adaptor-udeb to > >> the d-i image used by the live installer. >

Re: Bug#816682: live-installer: Inaccessible utility

2016-03-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, There was also a bug in at-spi2-atk, I have uploaded a fixed package. So, to summarize the needed steps to get d-i accessible from debian live: - at-spi2-atk fix (debian/patches/p2p), done. - adding a udeb for libgail-common & libgail18, filed as #816720 - setting

Re: Bug##816720: gail-common: provide udeb for accessibility

2016-03-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + tag Samuel Thibault, on Fri 04 Mar 2016 13:56:08 +0100, wrote: > Cyril Brulebois, on Fri 04 Mar 2016 02:50:28 +0100, wrote: > > gtk+3 isn't happening right now, due to (unanswered): > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/01/msg00226.html > >

Re: using speakup with debian jessie and other speech synthesizers like pico

2016-03-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Nick Gawronski, on Wed 17 Feb 2016 02:03:36 -0600, wrote: > Hi, I am trying to find out how to use speakup and debian Jessie with other > software synthesizers like pico and others. I have speechd-up installed but > not sure how to get pico installed and working with speakup. I also have

Re: Bug#816682: live-installer: Inaccessible utility

2016-03-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, on Fri 04 Mar 2016 02:50:28 +0100, wrote: > gtk+3 isn't happening right now, due to (unanswered): > https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/01/msg00226.html Ok, I'll be testing the attached patch. Samuel diff --exclude .svn --exclude .git --exclude CVS --exclude .hg -urN

Re: Bug#816682: live-installer: Inaccessible utility

2016-03-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 debian-installer-launcher Control: retitle -2 debian-installer-launcher: Set gtk2 variables for accessibility Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, on Thu 03 Mar 2016 22:24:02 +0100, wrote: > Once run, nothing happens. Orca stays quite. Doesn't read any widget.

Re: getting speakup and orca included in the Debian live disc

2016-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nick Gawronski, on Sun 28 Feb 2016 21:01:04 -0800, wrote: > What would it take to add a boot option to start espeakup or orca or > both so we could use the live disc for testing or as a rescue system? First checking that the software is already included in the disc (notably espeakup and

Re: getting speakup and orca included in the Debian live disc

2016-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Thu 03 Mar 2016 02:41:26 +0100, wrote: > Nick Gawronski, on Sun 28 Feb 2016 21:01:04 -0800, wrote: > > What would it take to add a boot option to start espeakup or orca or > > both so we could use the live disc for testing or as a rescue system? To put it in a

Re: getting speakup and orca included in the Debian live disc

2016-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on Thu 03 Mar 2016 02:42:00 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault, on Thu 03 Mar 2016 02:41:26 +0100, wrote: > > Nick Gawronski, on Sun 28 Feb 2016 21:01:04 -0800, wrote: > > > What would it take to add a boot option to start espeakup or orca or > > > both so

Bug#813143: openjdk-7-jre-headless: Please re-disable atk bridge

2016-02-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
JOSM team, on Fri 29 Jan 2016 20:43:52 +0100, wrote: > Basically the UI breaks at many places, EDT violations occur often, nasty > display bugs are encountered. Yes, more generally OpenJDK has threading issues, and thus we have to make java-atk-wrapper extra cautious with it... > These problems

Bug#815325: java-atk-wrapper: FTBFS on hurd-i386: unsatisfiable B-D: default-jdk (>= 2:1.7)

2016-02-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + upstream wontfix Hello, Andreas Beckmann, on Sat 20 Feb 2016 22:14:23 +0100, wrote: > since hurd only has default-jdk 2:1.5-56, java-atk-wrapper cannot be > built on that platform. Well, yes, the upstream project requires java 7. The hurd will need to have java7 support at

Re: Bug#793120: Multiarch menu: 32 bits speech options (gtk & non-gtk) have the same text

2016-02-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Martin Michlmayr, on Tue 16 Feb 2016 20:55:39 -0800, wrote: > Samuel, could you look into this? Ah, I believe all of that were fixed, alpha5 seems completely as expected, at least. Samuel

Re: Orca version

2016-02-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello and welcome, matthew dyer, on Sat 06 Feb 2016 18:48:16 -0500, wrote: > Is there a reason why debian 8.3 is using orca 3.14 when orca is now > up to 3.18.2. Debian releases only happen every two years. Debian 8 was released last may, and Debian 9 will be released next year. Point releases

Re: brltty_5.3.1-1~bpo7+1_amd64.changes REJECTED

2016-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexander Wirt, on Thu 28 Jan 2016 11:02:10 +, wrote: > Wrong distribution, this was probably meaned for -sloppy Ah, ok. I had misunderstood the array. Now reuploaded to -sloppy. Samuel

dark theme boot menu?

2016-01-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, During discussions, it was raised that selecting the dark theme is not really convenient: on the syslinux images one has to press tab and append theme=dark, and on the grub images, one has to edit the grub entry... So it was suggested that the dark theme could be an additional boot entry,

Re: dark theme boot menu?

2016-01-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
(Please keep both lists in Cc) Charlie Kravetz, on Tue 19 Jan 2016 17:40:03 -0700, wrote: > The more you add, the more you will be asked to add. Also, adding > extras makes it that much harder to not add next time. Yes, that's why I'm wondering as soon as considering the 2nd

Re: Latest install media to support speech?

2016-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, on Sat 16 Jan 2016 04:45:11 +0100, wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the latest--and probably more reliable--install > media is for getting speech up and running with Debian? All media except the non-gtk netboot support speech. > I had one version of the testing DVD some time

Bug#811009: libatspi2.0-dev: is dependency to libdbus-glib-1-dev still required for all archs?

2016-01-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Patrice Duroux, on Thu 14 Jan 2016 20:29:54 +0100, wrote: > I think that it is deprecated and oldlib, isn't it? Apparently, yes. at-spi2-core actually doesn't use it any more, so we can just drop the dependency. Samuel

Re: Regression in speech synthesis in sid?

2016-01-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on Tue 05 Jan 2016 06:02:01 +0100, wrote: > Speech synthesis seems to start just fine but once I've picked French > (choice 17), text is still read as if it were in English, which really > sounds strange. Uh. It seems I had made some assumption about how language gets

Bug#688349: flite can't write to stdout (or any non-file, e.g. fifo)

2016-01-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Denis Briand, on Sun 03 Jan 2016 11:46:29 +0100, wrote: > Have we got a feedback from upstream since 2012? Nope. I've just pinged the maintainer again. Samuel

Bug#809087: libatk-wrapper-java: Regression hangs Intellij Idea

2016-01-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Salwen, on Sat 02 Jan 2016 02:30:19 -0500, wrote: > Should I install everything, or just the libatk-wrapper/libatk-wrapper-jni? You need everything that is already installed on your box, i.e. probably libatk-wrapper, libatk-wrapper-jni, libatk-adaptor-bridge2.0-0, and libatk-adaptor. You

Bug#809087: libatk-wrapper-java: Regression hangs Intellij Idea

2016-01-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jeremy Salwen, on Sun 27 Dec 2015 06:10:38 -0500, wrote: > Yes, exactly, 0.33.3-5 causes the problem. > > I'm almost certain Intellij IDEA uses threads.  I just tried it out with the > custom version of openjdk, and it still crashed the same way. Downgrading > libatk fixes it as well with

Re: espeakup_0.71-20_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable

2016-01-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 17:21:28 +0100, wrote: > Debian FTP Masters (2015-12-26): > > espeakup (1:0.71-20) unstable; urgency=medium > > . > >* espeakup-udeb.sh: Preseed installing MATE desktop by default when > > espeakup > > is

espeakup (actually espeak) and pulseaudio / portaudio [Was: espeakup_0.71-20_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable]

2016-01-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Please don't hijack threads, notably "ACCEPT" threads. Your mail almost got into my bin, thinking it was just a duplicate of the ACCEPT mail... Jude DaShiell, on Fri 01 Jan 2016 12:15:03 -0500, wrote: > I've been told if espeakup finds pulseaudio installed it will use > pulseaudio. Well,

systemd, getty and brltty

2015-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The current version of brltty in Jessie suffers from an issue with systemd: systemd does not dare running getty on virtual consoles 2-6 because brltty is reading them. This is worked around in the latest brltty 5.3 release, but we still have the issue in Jessie and brltty 5.3 is not to be

Re: systemd, getty and brltty

2015-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, on Sun 20 Dec 2015 20:21:26 +0100, wrote: > Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> writes: > > > The current version of brltty in Jessie suffers from an issue with > > systemd: systemd does not dare running getty on virtual consoles 2-6 > >

Re: Please release the cups-filters 1.4.0-2 Debian package

2015-12-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Till Kamppeter, on Tue 15 Dec 2015 15:26:36 -0200, wrote: > In the Debian GIT repo for cups-filters I have split the Braille printing > stuff into its own binary package cups-filters-braille, to fix > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=808057 > > and to easily fit the

Re: BrailleSense

2015-12-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on Sun 13 Dec 2015 19:29:56 +0100, wrote: > I've just tested a BrailleSense from Hims in Debian stable. Please tell us the USB ID of the device. > uses a usb generic driver. So of course, brltty cannot work with it. brltty can take over generic drivers, but only

Re: iceweasel not accessible?

2015-12-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on Sat 12 Dec 2015 18:53:28 +0100, wrote: > Samuel, wouldn't Accerciser help? To see what happens? At least to know whether iceweasel is announcing anything, yes. > How would it be possib;e to have relevant logs? What you said below :) > Moreover, Michel, could you send

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-12-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, on Fri 11 Dec 2015 18:11:40 -0300, wrote: > Ah, now I get it. Please go ahead. Good, now done! Samuel

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-12-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, on Tue 01 Sep 2015 18:50:43 -0300, wrote: > On Tuesday 01 September 2015 01:39:51 Samuel Thibault wrote: > > As discussed at DebConf [1,2,3], we would like to make the accessibility > > stack enabled by default, so that all a user who nee

Re: Fwd: speech-dispatcher-contrib not building

2015-12-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Julien Cristau, on Thu 03 Dec 2015 18:52:10 +0100, wrote: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 00:06:20 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > TL;DR: speech-dispatcher-contrib does not get build on buildds, > > apparently because it depends on libttspico-dev which is in non-free. Is > &g

Fwd: speech-dispatcher-contrib not building

2015-11-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, TL;DR: speech-dispatcher-contrib does not get build on buildds, apparently because it depends on libttspico-dev which is in non-free. Is there a way to get it automatically built rather than having to build it for each and every architecture? Samuel - Forwarded message from Paul

Bug#757152: python-pyatspi: Should depond on at-spi2-core OR qt-at-spi

2015-11-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Ritesh Raj Sarraf, on Mon 23 Nov 2015 17:11:46 +0530, wrote: > On Sun, 2015-11-22 at 19:49 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Ritesh Raj Sarraf, on Sun 22 Nov 2015 21:57:12 +0530, wrote: > > > I'm also curious to know if KDE5/Qt5 apps really support the at-spi > >

Re: xbrlapi looping

2015-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mario Lang, on Fri 13 Nov 2015 10:35:43 +0100, wrote: > I remember this bug already showed up, and was supposedly fixed. > On my newly installed stretch box, I occasionally have > an xbrlapi process that consumes 100%. Just now, I even found two of > them, both consuming a full CPU core

Bug#757152: python-pyatspi: Should depond on at-spi2-core OR qt-at-spi

2015-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Michael Biebl, on Tue 13 Oct 2015 14:38:10 +0200, wrote: > Am 13.10.2015 um 14:30 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > > Well, let's have a look at solution, but to me this is really religious > > haircutting, and will most probably hurt people who need it. > > As said, I think

Re: dark theme

2015-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alex ARNAUD, on Mon 16 Nov 2015 11:20:15 +0100, wrote: > I've installed last week new Debien testing with the dark theme. The text is > contrasted and the size is increased but focus tracking doesn't work so in > the root password screen you can't see the input fields. Ok, I think I see

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-11-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, on Sat 14 Nov 2015 14:28:53 -0300, wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 18:19:01 Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On Sunday 18 October 2015 17:24:59 Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Could the qt-at-spi package be depende

Re: dark theme

2015-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, on Thu 12 Nov 2015 14:02:36 +0100, wrote: > On 12/11/2015 13:17, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >Possibly, because gnome or MATE provide some color themes which can be > >applied over the debian installer. It could be an idea to make a list of > >those them

Bug#804720: closed by Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> (Bug#804720: fixed in at-spi2-core 2.18.2-1)

2015-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Yaroslav Halchenko, on Tue 10 Nov 2015 22:17:21 -0500, wrote: > once again thanks and hopefully you don't hear from me again Well, yes and no: thanks for taking the time to submit these. Since they happen, we have to fix them. People who don't submit them quite often grumble "buggy software"

Re: speech-dispatcher-contrib not building

2015-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, on Wed 04 Nov 2015 22:32:28 +0100, wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > On 03-11-15 22:44, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Paul Gevers, on Tue 03 Nov 2015 22:35:07 +0100, wrote: > >> I guess that is because it is in non-free right. I remember that we > >> can get i

Bug#803226: qt-at-spi: i386 !elease uninstallable

2015-10-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: severity 801266 important Control: block -1 by 801266 Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:14:16 +0100, a écrit : > But libkdecore5:i386 is not installable, as it breaks libkdecore5. So the bug is in libkdecore5, already reported as #801266. Samuel

Re: State of gnome-orca in debian-installer

2015-10-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, shirish, le Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:37:22 +0530, a écrit : > What sort of support is there for gnome-orca in debian-installer ? None yet. Supporting gnome-orca would require python support, which we don't have yet. > I did see that there is support for espeak in d-i but nothing about >

Re: No speech in recent stretch?

2015-10-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:26:42 +0100, a écrit : > I don't think that what Mario wrote has something to do with > speech-dispatcher. > He wrote that orca running in gdm session talks so it must be an other > issue here. But he also wrote that he had a stuck speech dispatcher daemon. At

Bug#800602: Lightdm: orca speaks characters while typing the password.

2015-10-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Upstream agrees with the issue and solution, and will look for a more generic way (instead of copying the script over), but we can probably apply the patch to Debian in the meanwhile? Samuel

Bug#800602: Lightdm: orca speaks characters while typing the password.

2015-10-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: found -1 3.14.0-4 Control: tags -1 + patch upstream What I notice is that this happens on first focus of the gtk greeter. The braille device shows only "lightdm-gtk-greeter application frame". Once tabbed a bit inside the gtk greeter, the braille device shows "Enter your password $l",

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-10-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sune Vuorela, le Sun 18 Oct 2015 18:19:01 +0200, a écrit : > On Sunday 18 October 2015 17:24:59 Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Could the qt-at-spi package be depended on by e.g. libqtcore4? > > I guess one could put in a suggests somewhere, or maybe even a recommends,

Bug#757152: python-pyatspi: Should depond on at-spi2-core OR qt-at-spi

2015-10-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Biebl, le Tue 13 Oct 2015 14:24:22 +0200, a écrit : > this needs to be fixed. Otherwise I'll have to consider dropping > gnome-orca from the default GNOME installation. > > Pulling in unused KDE and Qt libraries is not desirable on a default > GNOME installation. Is pulling a handful of

Bug#801369: libatspi2.0-dev: Downgrade dependency on dbus

2015-10-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Jochen Sprickerhof, le Fri 09 Oct 2015 10:20:09 +0200, a écrit : > libatspi2.0-dev currently has a dependency against dbus. Is there a > reason for that? I would propose to drop it or move it to recommends. Indeed, I don't see a reason, and at-spi2-atk builds fine,

Bug#798924: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/jni/libatk-wrapper.so.6.0.0: SIGSEGV on Netbeans startup

2015-10-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mithat Konar, le Sat 03 Oct 2015 16:20:19 -0500, a écrit : > When I use Samuel's fix, Which fix? Commenting the line in /etc? It's not a fix, it's a workaround, which just completely disables libatk-wrapper-java. Any bug in that situation can thus not be due to it. Samuel

Bug#798924: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/jni/libatk-wrapper.so.6.0.0: SIGSEGV on Netbeans startup

2015-09-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Tim Ruehsen, le Wed 16 Sep 2015 11:30:15 +0200, a écrit : > This is really a no-go. I can't use the IDE any more. Neither in the office > nor at home. > If anyone knows of a work-around, please let me know. Comment the line in /etc/java-7-openjdk/accessibility.properties Samuel

Bug#798924: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/jni/libatk-wrapper.so.6.0.0: SIGSEGV on Netbeans startup

2015-09-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Tim Ruehsen, le Mon 14 Sep 2015 10:03:57 +0200, a écrit : > the latest version makes Netbeans (8.0.2 and 8.1beta) SIGSEGV on startup. > Tested with Debian OpenJDK 7 and 8. I'm not getting a crash on my box. Are you perhaps using e.g. a different look than the default? Samuel

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Gtk2

2015-09-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Emilio Pozuelo Monfort, le Sun 06 Sep 2015 16:38:31 +0200, a écrit : > On 30/08/15 18:19, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > The way I see it is simply by making the libatk-adaptor package add gail > > and atk-bridge to GTK_MODULES from a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d. > > > &g

Re: Fwd: Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-09-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sune Vuorela, le Sun 13 Sep 2015 14:49:44 +0200, a écrit : > I'm told that the following spell should enable stuff some stuff for users: > > kwriteconfig5 --file kaccessrc --group ScreenReader --key Enabled 'false' Indeed, it seems right for enabling the screen reader. > I don't know where it

Bug#798273: libatk-wrapper-java-jni:amd64: Segmentation fault, null pointer dereference

2015-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + patch moreinfo Could you try the attached patch? It's basically the same idea but in a bit cleaner way. I can upload that while I'm checking with upstream how they want to solve it. Samuel --- a/jni/src/AtkWrapper.c +++ b/jni/src/AtkWrapper.c @@ -1192,6 +1192,12 @@ JNICALL

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, BTW, we'd like to enable speech synthesis by default when speech was used during installation. AIUI, it is a matter of running this qdbus org.kde.kaccessibleapp /Adaptor setSpeechEnabled true but during installation we don't have an X session, and dbus tells me Error:

Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer, le Tue 01 Sep 2015 18:50:43 -0300, a écrit : > On Tuesday 01 September 2015 01:39:51 Samuel Thibault wrote: > > For Qt4, this is implemented in the qt-at-spi package, which has been > > developped mostly between 2009 and 2013. The

Re: gnome-speech and dasher

2015-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, le Wed 02 Sep 2015 00:01:26 +0200, a écrit : > I'd rather like to remove it before stretch, so maybe try to remove it > from build-deps of dasher. Rather replace it with speech-dispatcher, and make sure that configure picks it up. Samuel

Bug#788189: it'll have to support java 6 to be able to build us

2015-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thorsten Glaser, le Tue 01 Sep 2015 09:58:54 +0200, a écrit : > On Tue, 1 Sep 2015, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > - "I don't think it is possible (yet) to have a >= dependency on a java > > version." and yes, I was lazy to look for a proper solu

Bug#788189: it'll have to support java 6 to be able to build us

2015-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thorsten Glaser, le Tue 01 Sep 2015 09:13:17 +0200, a écrit : > why don't you version the B-D then? > > Build-Depends: ..., default-jdk (>= 2:1.6), ... Because: - "I don't think it is possible (yet) to have a >= dependency on a java version." and yes, I was lazy to look for a proper solution.

Re: gnome-speech and dasher

2015-09-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, le Tue 01 Sep 2015 17:08:53 +0200, a écrit : > Or does anyone know of an effort to port it to at-spi2 and speech-dispatcher? > Does it still work / do anything useful? It still works to type text and then copy/paste somewhere else. As such I believe it can still be useful. Also, it

Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5

2015-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As discussed at DebConf [1,2,3], we would like to make the accessibility stack enabled by default, so that all a user who needs it has to do is just to start orca (while at the moment she has to find an option in the control panel, and logout/login again, thus closing all running

Enabling accessibility stack by default in Gtk2

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As discussed at DebConf [1,2,3], we would like to make the accessibility stack enabled by default, so that all a user who needs it has to do is just to start orca (while at the moment she has to find an option in the control panel, and logout/login again, thus closing all running

Bug#797348: ebook-speaker: Segfault if no epub in the directory

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 03:31:20 +0200, a écrit : Le 30/08/2015 03:06, Samuel Thibault a écrit : MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 02:37:46 +0200, a écrit : Le 30/08/2015 02:23, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le Sat 29 Aug 2015 21:43:29 +0200

Re: Testing: lightdm

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 17:08:30 +0200, a écrit : Does it happen all the time? Ok, you answered that in another mail (please don't break mail threads, it's harder for follow discussions then). Is accessibility enabled in lightdm? Samuel

Re: testing: lightdm

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Tue 11 Aug 2015 08:59:32 +0200, a écrit : Here's my .xsession-errors with mate-desktop 1.10. ** (mate-settings-daemon:25207): WARNING **: Couldn't register with accessibility bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send

Re: Testing: lightdm

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Also, I guess you are using lightdm-gtk-greeter, not lightdm-kde-greeter? Samuel

Bug#784894: xbrlapi kills not properly

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jean-Philippe MENGU?AL, le Sun 10 May 2015 11:02:31 +0200, a écrit : 1. Open a session 2. Connect the braille display Here, impossible to write with braille keyboard, because xbrlapi needs to be started before connecting a display. I'm not getting any such issue. When do you

Re: Testing: lightdm

2015-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Wed 05 Aug 2015 11:14:12 +0200, a écrit : Just to say I've just have problems on testing to have Orca started. While it works with startx, through lightdm no. I can't reproduce this with a fresh installation of debian testing with lightdm MATE. Which version of

Bug#797348: ebook-speaker: Segfault if no epub in the directory

2015-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le Sat 29 Aug 2015 21:43:29 +0200, a écrit : 3. cd in a directory containing not .epub files. 4. Re-run ebook-speaker * What was the outcome of this action? Segfault I can't reproduce this. What do you *have* in the directory? Does it happen also with an empty

Bug#797348: ebook-speaker: Segfault if no epub in the directory

2015-08-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sun 30 Aug 2015 02:37:46 +0200, a écrit : Le 30/08/2015 02:23, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jean-Philippe MENGUAL, le Sat 29 Aug 2015 21:43:29 +0200, a écrit : 3. cd in a directory containing not .epub files. 4. Re-run ebook-speaker * What was the outcome

Making the accessibility stack enabled by default

2015-08-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, As discussed during DebConf15, we target enabling the accessibility stack by default. I've studied that a bit more, here are my thoughts: In the end, it boils down to a few things (there are a lot of ways to get them done, but in the end, that's what actually triggers the accessibility

Re: [BRLTTY] [systemd] Depending on mount points Was: Re: Strange issue with brltty

2015-08-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mario Lang, le Thu 27 Aug 2015 11:04:27 +0200, a écrit : if making it the default would have any unwanted side effects. I would consider that a bug that shall be fixed in systemd. Question is, shall we list all directories relevant to BRLTTY in RequiresMountsFor=? Or just all the top-level

Re: Debconf 15 talk about accessibility

2015-08-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sat 22 Aug 2015 21:33:21 +0200, a écrit : The video is already available on http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debconf15/Thanks_for_maintaining_a_desktop_environment_But_is_it_accessible.webm I'll work on the transcript later. It is available

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