Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Hi Samuel: Is their an English-Language version of that item? My Wife suggested I try www.DeepL.com but it was less than accessibile. Thanks in advance Chime
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
On 14/6/23 15:50, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: I've tried ArchLinux, but speech-dispatcher is probably broken, or maybe some other thing audio-related there. It's working well for me under Arch Linux, so there could be an issue related to your specific hardware. If that is the situation, changing to Debian may not help. In any case, I'm currently evaluating whether Debian unstable or testing is more suitable for me, specifically whether Debian unstable tends to break more or less than Arch. Arch doesn't "break" often or seriously, in my experience. Nor did Debian Unstable when I used it for a number of years. I would echo the suggestion made by other contributors to this thread that Debian Testing should be more reliable and ought to be your preferred option. (We're assuming that Debian Stable is ruled out, of course, as you're seeking a different balance of recent packages with reliability.)
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Hello, Chime Hart, le mer. 14 juin 2023 15:43:52 -0700, a ecrit: > I get this message about BookWorm non-free changing its name. Release notes are there to be read. https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.fr.html#non-free-split Samuel
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Well, I've had Debian 12 now for 11 days. An only anoyance which I can't seem to fix, when I run my daily updates-and-upgrades in what was SID, I get this message about BookWorm non-free changing its name. Even if I remove bookworm from sources.list, I still get this message. Otherwise, I always add deb multimedia, as I like the newest packages. 1 other thing which changed, even with the same font, I only have 135lines by 270 columns, as where before I had 180. Otherwise, an update which Samuel helped with in a flush time for the DecTalk, still comes up at 4thousand instead of 10. So we either edit a file manually or run an alias rd: aliased to sudo /sbin/modprobe -r speakup_dectlk; sudo /usr/sbin/modprobe speakup_dectlk; sudo cp /usr/local/bin/characters /sys/accessibility/speakup/i18n/; sudo echo '10' | sudo tee /sys/accessibility/speakup/dectlk/flush_time I think for some reason that devided. Chime
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Cleverson Casarin Uliana, le mer. 14 juin 2023 16:50:04 -0300, a ecrit: > that Orca in particular is still at version 43.1 in both Unstable and > Testing, while it's 44.1 in the experimental version. Since 44.1 was > released around one month ago, As a reminder, we have released Debian 12 only *last week-end*. Until then the rule was not to upload new stuff to testing/unstable, so Debian 12 could stay on stable grounds. Samuel
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Testing isn't Unstable (Sid) which is what he asked about. I, too, recommend Testing for the reasons given. You don't need that one package not to work before it gets fixed and then goes into Testing. Go with Testing to begin with. Testing is fine, much better for reliability in mission critical use like accessibility! David On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 4:08 PM Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi, > > On 14-06-2023 21:50, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: > > Anyone who uses unstable or testing, please tell whether you have > > already had a breakage, either a system breakage or application > > breaking, > > I think in general, testing is quite good already for most users and I > even think the Debian project should recommend it more. testing is > typically only a few days behind unstable, but due to QA has > significantly [1] less issues. > > Paul > > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ >
Re: How is unstable for dayly use?
Hi, On 14-06-2023 21:50, Cleverson Casarin Uliana wrote: Anyone who uses unstable or testing, please tell whether you have already had a breakage, either a system breakage or application breaking, I think in general, testing is quite good already for most users and I even think the Debian project should recommend it more. testing is typically only a few days behind unstable, but due to QA has significantly [1] less issues. Paul [1] https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
How is unstable for dayly use?
Hi all, I've tried ArchLinux, but speech-dispatcher is probably broken, or maybe some other thing audio-related there. In any case, I'm currently evaluating whether Debian unstable or testing is more suitable for me, specifically whether Debian unstable tends to break more or less than Arch. My plan is basically to install a console-based system, then install a minimal window manager like I3 to use a browsser like Firefox or Microsoft Edge, maybe other desktop apps in the future, but preferably console-based applications as long as I adapt to them. Anyone who uses unstable or testing, please tell whether you have already had a breakage, either a system breakage or application breaking, in particular regarding accessibility, e.g. Orca stopping to read anything, loss of audio in the console, etc., so I can decide whether I go for unstable or testing. If you can also compare the stability of the system and applications to ArchLinux, I'll be grateful. Also, I've checked a few packages on the packages website, and I verified that Orca in particular is still at version 43.1 in both Unstable and Testing, while it's 44.1 in the experimental version. Since 44.1 was released around one month ago, may I ask whether it is normal for accessibility-related packages to take a long time to migrate to unstable? Thanks, Cleverson
