Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
ok thx 10.03.2018 23:07, Samuel Thibault пишет: александр епанешников, on sam. 10 mars 2018 23:02:55 +0300, wrote: OK. I'll wait. and what package update should I wait for? Console-setup version 1.179 should have the fix when it gets uploaded. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
александр епанешников, on sam. 10 mars 2018 23:02:55 +0300, wrote: > OK. I'll wait. and what package update should I wait for? Console-setup version 1.179 should have the fix when it gets uploaded. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
OK. I'll wait. and what package update should I wait for? 10.03.2018 23:00, Samuel Thibault пишет: александр епанешников, on sam. 10 mars 2018 22:57:55 +0300, wrote: works perfectly. Thank you for that. two questions, if I now install system, does it work well also there? Not yet, the fix will have to reach unstable then testing. and will this fix be included in the next day snapshot or alpha release? I don't know exactly when it will be uploaded. Daily snapshot clearly no, next alpha release, perhaps. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
александр епанешников, on sam. 10 mars 2018 22:57:55 +0300, wrote: > works perfectly. Thank you for that. > two questions, if I now install system, does it work well also there? Not yet, the fix will have to reach unstable then testing. > and will this fix be included in the next day snapshot or alpha release? I don't know exactly when it will be uploaded. Daily snapshot clearly no, next alpha release, perhaps. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
works perfectly. Thank you for that. two questions, if I now install system, does it work well also there? and will this fix be included in the next day snapshot or alpha release? 10.03.2018 22:19, Samuel Thibault пишет: Samuel Thibault, on sam. 10 mars 2018 09:30:10 +0100, wrote: александр епанешников, on ven. 09 mars 2018 16:20:48 +0300, wrote: when reading the terminal automatically, everything is fine, but if you need to read a line, word or symbol, some Russian letters are replaced by English ones. eg, н on h, р on p. Mmm, I see. I guess this is because of the font which reduces the font size by collapsing these letters, and thus the screen reader can't re-read them. I'll have a look at disabling this unwanted feature. Could you retry https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso ? Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Samuel Thibault, on sam. 10 mars 2018 09:30:10 +0100, wrote: > александр епанешников, on ven. 09 mars 2018 16:20:48 +0300, wrote: > > when reading the terminal automatically, everything is fine, but if you > > need to > > read a line, word or symbol, some Russian letters are replaced by English > > ones. > > eg, н on h, р on p. > > Mmm, I see. I guess this is because of the font which reduces the font > size by collapsing these letters, and thus the screen reader can't > re-read them. I'll have a look at disabling this unwanted feature. Could you retry https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso ? Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
александр епанешников, on ven. 09 mars 2018 16:20:48 +0300, wrote: > when reading the terminal automatically, everything is fine, but if you need > to > read a line, word or symbol, some Russian letters are replaced by English > ones. > eg, н on h, р on p. Mmm, I see. I guess this is because of the font which reduces the font size by collapsing these letters, and thus the screen reader can't re-read them. I'll have a look at disabling this unwanted feature. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
thanks your second version of the image works fine. but the problem with moving through the lines, words or symbols remained. I'll try to explain it. when reading the terminal automatically, everything is fine, but if you need to read a line, word or symbol, some Russian letters are replaced by English ones. eg, н on h, р on p. this creates difficulties in reading. 09.03.2018 3:34, Samuel Thibault пишет: Samuel Thibault, on jeu. 08 mars 2018 00:39:48 +0100, wrote: https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso contains a fixed version. The result sounds more like Russian to my ears indeed (even if I don't understand anything). There are still errors in the output, but that's not related to speak. That was the upgrade to glibc 2.27 which broke locales. I have updated the URL above with a fixed version. That should sound like what it will be with Buster. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Samuel Thibault, on jeu. 08 mars 2018 00:39:48 +0100, wrote: > https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso contains a > fixed version. The result sounds more like Russian to my ears indeed > (even if I don't understand anything). There are still errors in the > output, but that's not related to speak. That was the upgrade to glibc 2.27 which broke locales. I have updated the URL above with a fixed version. That should sound like what it will be with Buster. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Hello, Please always keep the debian-accessibility list in Cc, so everybody can see what happens with the issue and possibly participate. александр епанешников, on mer. 07 mars 2018 00:46:16 +0300, wrote: > I looked at this installer. and noticed some oddities. > I used the expert mode with speech synthesis enabled. > > When choosing Russian, espeak does not automatically switch to the Russian > version. Oops, indeed, language autoswitch got broken by the newer espeak-ng version. https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/mini.iso contains a fixed version. The result sounds more like Russian to my ears indeed (even if I don't understand anything). There are still errors in the output, but that's not related to speak. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
I looked at this installer. and noticed some oddities. I used the expert mode with speech synthesis enabled. When choosing Russian, espeak does not automatically switch to the Russian version. and although the speech is slightly understandable. when using the numpad key to navigate. I hear completely different words. I wonder if this is due to speakup or sum unusual encoding or fonts 06.03.2018 20:35, Samuel Thibault пишет: александр епанешников, on mar. 06 mars 2018 20:04:52 +0300, wrote: Perhaps you know the time interval when I can try the test installer build? Well, the latest images should have it ( https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/gtk/mini.iso ) I have however tried it and there are issues with the installer itself, so it's not usable. You could however check that it does speak Russian. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Hello, fley...@yandex.ru, on mer. 07 mars 2018 12:49:37 +0300, wrote: > In this case it would be a good idea to make BRLTTY use Russian braille table > automatically if Russian language is selected during installation. It's not very simple to implement actually. While users can actually very easily switch translation table in brltty's configuration menu. Samuel
RE: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
In this case it would be a good idea to make BRLTTY use Russian braille table automatically if Russian language is selected during installation. Thanks. Sergei -Original Message- From: александр епанешников Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 8:05 PM To: Samuel Thibault Subject: Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y Perhaps you know the time interval when I can try the test installer build? 06.03.2018 18:53, Samuel Thibault пишет: > Hello, > > александр епанешников, on mar. 06 mars 2018 18:37:34 +0300, wrote: >> Hello. as far as I know now it is impossible to make installation >> using text mode and speakup with espeakup in Russian. >> >> if I'm not mistaken this is because espeakup does not support >> unicode. in the git I saw a commit correcting this. my question is: >> after the release of espeakup will it be able to work with the >> Russian text. and whether the problem with installation in Russian will be >> solved. > That will be part of next release, Buster, yes. > > Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
александр епанешников, on mar. 06 mars 2018 20:04:52 +0300, wrote: > Perhaps you know the time interval when I can try the test installer build? Well, the latest images should have it ( https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/gtk/mini.iso ) I have however tried it and there are issues with the installer itself, so it's not usable. You could however check that it does speak Russian. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Perhaps you know the time interval when I can try the test installer build? 06.03.2018 18:53, Samuel Thibault пишет: Hello, александр епанешников, on mar. 06 mars 2018 18:37:34 +0300, wrote: Hello. as far as I know now it is impossible to make installation using text mode and speakup with espeakup in Russian. if I'm not mistaken this is because espeakup does not support unicode. in the git I saw a commit correcting this. my question is: after the release of espeakup will it be able to work with the Russian text. and whether the problem with installation in Russian will be solved. That will be part of next release, Buster, yes. Samuel
Re: possibility to install debian in Russian using A11Y
Hello, александр епанешников, on mar. 06 mars 2018 18:37:34 +0300, wrote: > Hello. as far as I know now it is impossible to make installation using text > mode and speakup with espeakup in Russian. > > if I'm not mistaken this is because espeakup does not support unicode. in > the git I saw a commit correcting this. my question is: after the release > of espeakup will it be able to work with the Russian text. and whether the > problem with installation in Russian will be solved. That will be part of next release, Buster, yes. Samuel
