Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 08:37:33AM -0500, Neil Gunton wrote: I'm curious as to whether anyone has experience of software RAID in Linux giving better overall performance on RAID10 than a RAID card such as the Adaptec 2015S. Server: Dual Opteron 265, 1.8GHz, i.e. 4 cores total, 4GB RAM,

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 02:01:24AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Linux software raid (at least for raid 0 and 1 and combinations) is often faster than what a hardware raid card can do, and almost certainly better than what any fakeraid pulls off (since their drivers are often crap at doing

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Lennart Sorensen wrote: If you have a fast cpu and you aren't using it for anything else (like is often the case on a file server) and if you don't cause your pci bus to be saturated, then software raid will probably be faster than hardware raid in general. Interesting stuff. So how do you

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Neil (2007.08.26_16:00:10_+0200) I guess I will try and do a test with bonnie++ using both the hardware and software RAID... will that be a reasonable test of the differences? I've had a *bad* experince with hardware RAID...

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 01:15:00PM +, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: If the raid card was PCI-e, would it matter? Certainly better than plain PCI. More bandwidth. Worst case for the bus would be data to and from the drive's cache. For SATA-II, that's 300 MB/s. So to write to two drives at

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:00:10AM -0500, Neil Gunton wrote: Interesting stuff. So how do you test your pci bus saturation? I just figure it out by the numbers. Maximum on plain PCI is 33MHz x 32bit = 132MB/s. There is a bit of overhead so expect maybe 100MB/s actual throughput. 66MHz pci

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Linux software raid (at least for raid 0 and 1 and combinations) is often faster than what a hardware raid card can do, and almost certainly better than what any fakeraid pulls off (since their drivers are often crap at doing the raid in software). raid 5 on the other

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:46:26AM -0500, Neil Gunton wrote: I guess the reason the YouTube guys used hardware RAID 1 and then put software RAID 0 on top of that is that this means only sending the data once, but with the kernel doing the striping you get improved parallelization by seeing

Re: HP DV9540 laptop AMD64 with nVidia G8400M graphic card will not start in X mode

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:58:46AM -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: Is there any way to list all the dependencies of a package, or do a manual verification of the web of dependencies? The Examine/!Apply in aptitude is helpful. apt-cache show packagename dpkg --info package.deb To see what files

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Neil Gunton
Lennart Sorensen wrote: SCSI has no purpose to me anymore. SATA or SAS is the only type of drive I will consider for use. SAS is really quite impresive, although I tend to just use SATA for what I do. I don't run servers in my current job (someone elses job, and they do use SAS drives).

Re: HP DV9540 laptop AMD64 with nVidia G8400M graphic card will not start in X mode

2007-08-26 Thread Chris Ahlstrom
* Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-26 10:55:37 -0400]: apt-cache show packagename dpkg --info package.deb To see what files a package is using: dpkg -L packagename To see what package owns a file: dpkg -S /path/to/filename Thanks! -- Tux rox! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: openoffice.org crashes testing

2007-08-26 Thread Don Montgomery
I am using oo 2.0.4 and linux 2.6.18-4-amd64. How do I upgrade open office without pulling everything else along with it? Thanks, Don On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Michael wrote: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:12:32 +0200 From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-amd64@lists.debian.org Subject: Re:

Re: flash on amd64: my report

2007-08-26 Thread Michael
Looks like gnash works now at least for youtube stuff. (Still not for myspace.) Otherwise you can play flash flv files externally with vlc plugin. # Machine: x86_64 # Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-rc5-amd64 (custom) # Debian GNU/Linux lenny/sid # Installed: libc6 2.6.1-1 gnash

How to use aptitude

2007-08-26 Thread Michael
Aptitude has nice scenario resolvers. It looks odd to someone not used to ncurses GUI and admittedly it's very special. But when it comes to difficult problems where you need intelligence and details there's probably nothing better, besides the apt commandline tools and dpkg itself. It's

Re: How to use aptitude

2007-08-26 Thread Don Montgomery
Michael, thanks very much. I have only used apt-* previously, I will check out aptitude. --Don On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Michael wrote: Aptitude has nice scenario resolvers. It looks odd to someone not used to ncurses GUI and admittedly it's very special. But when it comes to difficult

Re: AMD64 X2 questions

2007-08-26 Thread Jim Crilly
On 08/25/07 01:22:50PM +0200, Michael wrote: Thanks Lennart, thanks Jim, for the good points. I think i can accept the matter of facts ;) It's generally a great fun to read your postings. Just let me say thx here for sharing your insight. That should apply to all those real freaks on

Re: How to use aptitude

2007-08-26 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 01:12:26PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote: Michael, thanks very much. I have only used apt-* previously, I will check out aptitude. --Don WARNING: aptitude keeps track of which packages you requested explicitly, and which were only installed to satisfy a dependency.

Re: AMD64 X2 questions

2007-08-26 Thread Michael
Just to avoid confusion...cpuset seems to be the kernel thing, and taskset is the related userspace tool ? What is an 'optical imbalance'? If one pane of the load-monitor is green and the other is black ;) It looks like it's not 'balanced' but you really clarified that issue now. -- To

Re: How to use aptitude

2007-08-26 Thread Don Montgomery
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 01:12:26PM -0500, Don Montgomery wrote: Michael, thanks very much. I have only used apt-* previously, I will check out aptitude. --Don WARNING: aptitude keeps track of which packages you requested explicitly, and which

Re: How to use aptitude

2007-08-26 Thread Michael
So, if I have that right, I need to keep a close eye on what aptitude offers to uninstall, if I previously used 'apt-get install package' extensively? You always need to have a close eye on packages being additionally uninstalled. I can abort, and use aptitude to install/reinstall said

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 09:59:47AM -0500, Neil Gunton wrote: Interesting! Unfortunately, this is an existing server, it's all I've got and I have to make the best of it. I would certainly be willing to ditch the Adaptec RAID card if it helped improve things for software RAID. I vaguely know

Re: AMD64 X2 questions

2007-08-26 Thread Jim Crilly
On 08/26/07 11:26:27PM +0200, Michael wrote: Just to avoid confusion...cpuset seems to be the kernel thing, and taskset is the related userspace tool ? Yes taskset is the userland tool for setting CPU affinity but it's only for setting CPU affinity while cpusets also restrict the nodes

Re: Software vs Hardware RAID 10?

2007-08-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:42:40AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: I just figure it out by the numbers. Maximum on plain PCI is 33MHz x 32bit = 132MB/s. There is a bit of overhead so expect maybe 100MB/s actual throughput. 66MHz pci would double that, 64bit PCI would double it too, and PCI-X

Re: resizing partition with Windows Vista

2007-08-26 Thread Peter Christensen
Googling for a solution, the only one seems to be to buy a partitioning proprietary software that knows how to resize NTFS partitions with Vista on it. Has anybody been successful resizing such a partition to create space for a dual boot system? Dear Seb, This past spring I bought a Dell

Problem with GTK

2007-08-26 Thread Marc Hansen
Hi, when I try to start xsane I get the following erroremessage. GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Error loading XPM image loader: Bildlader-Modul konnte nicht geladen werden: /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: /usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-xpm.so: wrong ELF