Re: complaints about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread Michael
After having read much of the stuff available online (including parts of Lennart Poetterings blog), it appears that the essential point of it all seems to have been to make boot up a little faster. Bit i have a strong feeling that just a few seconds faster boot up simply do not justify the

Re: complaints about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread ael
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 03:32:58PM +0200, Michael wrote: The new system reduces some complexity on one side while introducing much more on the other. The whole design so far as I can see lacks the simplicity and transparency that the greatest minds in computer science advocate. That seems to

Re: complaints about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread Ray Andrews
On 10/08/2014 12:39 PM, ael wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 03:32:58PM +0200, Michael wrote: The new system reduces some complexity on one side while introducing much more on the other. The whole design so far as I can see lacks the simplicity and transparency that the greatest minds in

Re: complaints about systemd

2014-10-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
I will weigh in. In the FOSS world - I could care less what people decide to code up and run. If you like it, go for it. Scratch that itch and share your code. I liked the look of systemd early on, but this was in comparison to upstart. Debian's dash based init scripts always struck me as