Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
I found a better way to get later versions of iceweasel http://mozilla.debian.net/ Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The worst thing about growing old is the point where you realize you scare small children. They are frightened and rightfully so; they don't want to grow old either. kps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eefc090.2030...@xtronics.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:16:53AM +0100, Michael wrote:
Why not move to Debian testing ('wheezy') altogether.
Maybe for the stability of stable?
I use testing, but my wife refuses; she's on stable. Too much change
from day to day. And I can't say she's wrong.
I did a routine upgrade a few weeks ago, before havein friends over for
a write-in, only to discover that gnome had become unusable. I spent
the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of
getting useful work done.
A few days later I migrated to xfce.
My wife was happy staying with stable.
Mond you keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems
all by itself. But it'll be easy to uninstall the backport and go back
to the stable version if necessary.
-- hendrik
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Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Hendrik, I did a routine upgrade a few weeks ago, before havein friends over for a write-in, only to discover that gnome had become unusable. Yes, i agree. When using testing, you have to learn a new discipline: Update only when you feel like it ;) And you can always cancel when package manager indicates problems. the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of getting useful work done. In the past, i had a lot of trouble like this. Then i realized i need only lots of full fledged applications anyway, no desktop notifiers and whatever, and a plain Windowmaker is totally perfect for me. It allows me application launchers on as much workspaces i want. What else should i ever need ? And i went away from the full desktop environments and am happy now since many years. But i agree, if you're still on Gnome or KDE you need to be very careful. A few days later I migrated to xfce. Another good choice. My wife was happy staying with stable. And i am happy with the latest video codecs ;) - and firefox 8. keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems all by itself. I can not remember there was any such problem with Mozilla, in many years. And i'm running unstable on several machines. I think it's only the desktop environments complexity which seem to reach the limit for the Free Software developing process, especially stability maintenance. They want so much more features all the time. But production users want stability, real apps, and maybe only 10% of the available DE features in total. But YMMV. ps. And here is the amd64 list quota content: You get enhanced 64bit support and newer kernel drivers too, of course. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111213173752.70aff...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 05:37:52PM +0100, Michael wrote: Hendrik, Yes, i agree. When using testing, you have to learn a new discipline: Update only when you feel like it ;) And you can always cancel when package manager indicates problems. Package manager did not indicate problems. the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of getting useful work done. In the past, i had a lot of trouble like this. Then i realized i need only lots of full fledged applications anyway, no desktop notifiers and whatever, and a plain Windowmaker is totally perfect for me. It allows me application launchers on as much workspaces i want. What else should i ever need ? I should try Windowmaker. But i agree, if you're still on Gnome or KDE you need to be very careful. At the moment xdm doesn't seem to work with the corrent kernel, nothing to do with Gnome of KDE. So I pick an old kernel every time I boot. My wife was happy staying with stable. And i am happy with the latest video codecs ;) Video codecs would be nice. But my laptop doesn't seem to have the hardware needed to keep up with them. I've pretty much gven up on video. But I'm happy with libreoffice. Too bad is wasn't out in time for stable. Openoffice had dropped support for .fodt files, which are essential to my production chain. Well, I suppose I could have rewritten a lot of coode instead. - and firefox 8. keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems all by itself. I can not remember there was any such problem with Mozilla, in many years. And i'm running unstable on several machines. I think it's only the desktop environments complexity which seem to reach the limit for the Free Software developing process, especially stability maintenance. It's the plugins that don't keep up. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111213174435.gb3...@topoi.pooq.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:41:46 -0600 Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? i'm an happy user of google chrome, but isn't strictly opensource if based on chromium too... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111213013120.f33d7602605ee5a09a00a...@sythos.net
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Why not move to Debian testing ('wheezy') altogether.
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Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Follow this instruction - http://mozilla.debian.net/ I have iceweasel 8 installed (64-bit) from this instruction and 32-bit firefox from mozilla's site on debian stable. You can add deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ squeeze non-free to source /etc/apt/sources.list if you want latest Opera browser. Hope this helps. Best regards Georgi On 12/10/2011 07:29 AM, Karl Schmidt wrote: On 12/09/2011 10:14 PM, Jaime Ochoa Malag�n wrote: Backports have iceweasel 8 Not finding it - do you have a link? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Reynolds� Law: �Subsidizing the markers of status doesn�t produce the character traits that result in that status; it undermines them.� -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee31933.20...@oles.biz
Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What kind of society isn’t structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of a system. - Milton Freidman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee29cba.4080...@xtronics.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
FOSS only? how about opera? On 12/9/2011, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What kind of society isnt structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of a system. - Milton Freidman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee29cba.4080...@xtronics.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/gaf6uzrk.1323477716.1028390.djz...@bong.com.au
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
I've had no problem installing iceweasel from sid. To add it or update it, I just add sid to the repository temporarily, then once I've updated it, remove it. No big deal. What problem did you experience with that? Or were you looking for more of a hands-off approach? – Chris On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Dean Hamstead d...@fragfest.com.au wrote: FOSS only? how about opera? On 12/9/2011, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What kind of society isn’t structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of a system. - Milton Freidman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee29cba.4080...@xtronics.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/gaf6uzrk.1323477716.1028390.djz...@bong.com.au
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Backports have iceweasel 8 On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: Not sure which way to approach this: backports does not have a more recent iceweasel. I could try to install from iceweasel 8.0 from unstable, but last time I did that it produced a big mess - wanting to bring in updated packages that would break other packages.. I could also try to install mozilla's Linux version. Wondered if anyone else has gone down this road? -- Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 What kind of society isn’t structured on greed? The problem of social organization is how to set up an arrangement under which greed will do the least harm; capitalism is that kind of a system. - Milton Freidman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee29cba.4080...@xtronics.com -- Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different selves that are actively involved in a given relationship. Carl Sagan (Contact) Absolute certainty is a privilege of uneducated minds-and fanatics. It is, for scientific folk, an unattainable ideal. Cassius J. Keyser Eres un barco en el mar de emociones donde la mente y el corazón son el timón y el motor de tu vida; la muerte es tu destino, el amor tu capitán y deseo con toda el alma que tu viaje sea emocionante, lleno de aventuras y que dure muchos años. Montaño Jaime Ochoa Malagón Arquitecto de Soluciones Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+HXgsp5A-PKx3X42=mb4we1635h1vqbqdqoafz_kx_4keb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On 12/09/2011 10:14 PM, Jaime Ochoa Malagón wrote: Backports have iceweasel 8 Not finding it - do you have a link? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Reynolds’ Law: “Subsidizing the markers of status doesn’t produce the character traits that result in that status; it undermines them.” -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ee2ee50.7000...@xtronics.com
