Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 07:54:39PM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: I made the module with out any problem with m-a. I seem to have all the same versions except for nvidia-glx wajig list nvidia ii nvidia-glx1.0.8776-4 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ii

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-22 Thread Karl Schmidt
Stephen Cormier wrote: It is definitely the problem you won't get it to install unless you rebuild the package source Which package source? please email me the corrected package - what ever it is (BTW there are ways to force installation - wouldn't that work?) having modified it so

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-22 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 12:56:46PM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Which package source? please email me the corrected package - what ever it is (BTW there are ways to force installation - wouldn't that work?) Using force pretty much always leaves you with a broken dependancy set which will have to

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-22 Thread Stephen Cormier
On January 22, 2008 04:07:58 pm Stephen Cormier wrote: On January 22, 2008 02:56:46 pm Karl Schmidt wrote: Stephen Cormier wrote: It is definitely the problem you won't get it to install unless you rebuild the package source Which package source? please email me the corrected package

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-22 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Karl Schmidt wrote: I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). Not sure which way to go from here: * Use the nvidia supplied drivers? (I've never done this) * Is there a way to use

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-21 Thread Robert Isaac
The versions abobe 100.14.09 must use Xorg7.3 and higher, due to a new ABI in the Nvidia drivers. 100.14.19 builds and works fine on Etch as did 100.14.09. Only the debian package requires Xorg = 7.3 which can easily be changed by lowering the version numbers in the debian/control.in file in

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-21 Thread Stephen Cormier
On January 20, 2008 11:53:33 pm Karl Schmidt wrote: Stephen Cormier wrote: HappyTux:/# uname -r 2.6.23 This seems to be where I have lost the trail. I have: # uname -a Linux singapore 2.6.22-3-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 4 18:18:09 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux And; I don't see a 2.6.23 kernel

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-21 Thread Karl Schmidt
Stephen Cormier wrote: I have the packages for those still laying around as well so if you want you can try both if your email address will accept attachments of around 5mb for the largest of the files. Stephen I made the module with out any problem with m-a. I seem to have all the same

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-21 Thread Stephen Cormier
On January 21, 2008 09:54:39 pm Karl Schmidt wrote: Stephen Cormier wrote: I have the packages for those still laying around as well so if you want you can try both if your email address will accept attachments of around 5mb for the largest of the files. Stephen I made the module

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008 schrieb Karl Schmidt: I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). Not sure which way to go from here: * Use the nvidia supplied drivers? (I've never done

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 08:59:37PM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). Not sure which way to go from here: * Use the nvidia supplied drivers? (I've

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 05:21:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* Fine. 2. delete /usr/src/nvidia-source*.tgz Deleting file beloging to packages is generally a bad plan. Don't do that. 3. delete all formerly built packages (i.e. nvidia-kernel-bla***.deb)

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Karl Schmidt
Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi ! To get the newest NVidia-packages installed and built, you can follow these steps: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* 2. delete /usr/src/nvidia-source*.tgz 3. delete all formerly built packages (i.e. nvidia-kernel-bla***.deb) 4. deinstall nvidia-source and

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008 schrieb Karl Schmidt: Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi ! To get the newest NVidia-packages installed and built, you can follow these steps: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* 2. delete /usr/src/nvidia-source*.tgz 3. delete all formerly built packages (i.e.

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Stephen Cormier
On January 20, 2008 09:05:32 pm Stephen Cormier wrote: On January 20, 2008 05:05:29 pm Karl Schmidt wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi ! To get the newest NVidia-packages installed and built, you can follow these steps: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* 2. delete

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Stephen Cormier
On January 20, 2008 05:05:29 pm Karl Schmidt wrote: Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi ! To get the newest NVidia-packages installed and built, you can follow these steps: 1. delete all /usr/src/modules/nv* 2. delete /usr/src/nvidia-source*.tgz 3. delete all formerly built packages (i.e.

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-20 Thread Karl Schmidt
Stephen Cormier wrote: HappyTux:/# uname -r 2.6.23 This seems to be where I have lost the trail. I have: # uname -a Linux singapore 2.6.22-3-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 4 18:18:09 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux And; I don't see a 2.6.23 kernel to install? Where did you get it?

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-19 Thread Karl Schmidt
I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). Not sure which way to go from here: * Use the nvidia supplied drivers? (I've never done this) * Is there a way to use the etch drivers? * Get

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2008-01-19 Thread Steve Dobson
Karl On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 20:59 -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: I think I shouldn't have updated to lenny -- I can't get nvidia working and I need it for a dual head setup (I don't think the nv driver can do this). That depends. Are you using a video card with two heads or two cards? If your

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Isaac
But they are NOT compatible. That means they don't work. The new xorg can't work with the old nvidia hence there should be a dependancy preventing you from having the old nvidia with the new xorg. It's a good thing when packages prevent you from doing broken things. The new version of

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Isaac
Best course of action: stick to Intel graphics, or use the free nv driver. The nv driver only works on some cards and intel cards are overpriced POS that simply do not support some of more useful GL extensions. AMD/ATi has recently released specs for their newer chips, and promises to do so

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-22 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 06:25:05AM -0500, Robert Isaac wrote: The nv driver only works on some cards and intel cards are overpriced POS that simply do not support some of more useful GL extensions. AMD/ATi has recently released specs for their newer chips, and promises to do so soon for their

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-22 Thread Karl Schmidt
Adam Stiles wrote: Best course of action: stick to Intel graphics, or use the free nv driver. It is my understanding that the ATI (now part of AMD) cards were going to be totally open? http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3108 Thank you AMD - I sure hope our driver people take

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Isaac
AFAIK not all specs are available and even the released ones have some holes. I'm sure these will be solved over time but IMHO right _now_ the only fully supported Radeon family is still the R200 generation. R300 and partly R400 is becoming pretty good but it is not yet complete. Work on R500

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-21 Thread Nicolas
You can make it yourself! Get the package: apt-get -d xserver-xorg-core Create a directory to unpack that package: mkdir /path/to/a/directory (example /tmp/xserver) cd /tmp/xserver/ dpkg -e xserver-xorg-core dpkg -x xserver-xorg-core /tmp/xserver cd /tmp/xserver/DEBIAN Edit the

Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-21 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Dear maintainers, it is not possible, to install the newest xorg-version without upgrading to a newer version of nvidia-glx. Yes, I know, this is because xorg 7.3 is using a new ABI for Nvidias new binary part and you need xorg7.3 for the newer drivers. But because of these dependencies, I

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 07:47:46PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Dear maintainers, it is not possible, to install the newest xorg-version without upgrading to a newer version of nvidia-glx. Yes, I know, this is because xorg 7.3 is using a new ABI for Nvidias new binary part and you need

Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia

2007-11-21 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2007 schrieb Nicolas: You can make it yourself! Get the package: apt-get -d xserver-xorg-core Create a directory to unpack that package: mkdir /path/to/a/directory (example /tmp/xserver) cd /tmp/xserver/ dpkg -e xserver-xorg-core dpkg -x