Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?

2014-10-16 Thread jp.po...@izzop.net
Hello, I really hate systemd, since it is installed on one of my machine starting and stopping the system are painful. Starting is more than one minute with the X screen appearing at the very end. Stopping is the more painful thing, that machine wait more than 7 minutes before to stop, other

Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?

2014-10-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 03:34:45PM +0200, jp.po...@izzop.net wrote: I really hate systemd, since it is installed on one of my machine starting and stopping the system are painful. Starting is more than one minute with the X screen appearing at the very end. Stopping is the more painful thing,

What is the evidence for and against systemd?

2014-10-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 08:19:14PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: On 10/11/2014 07:36 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 11/10/2014 12:19 AM, Michael wrote: ... So... they want to turn Debian into Android, great NOT! DDs do your job, it is up to you to stop this mess getting even more out of

Re: What is the evidence for and against systemd?

2014-10-12 Thread Dean Hamstead
see the specifics). I'm all in favour of hardware memory protection and the like separating disparate system components as a step in the direction of safety, and I already deplore the monolithicity of the Linux kernel. (Perhaps formal verification would be an adequate substitute, but we're