Re: tracking OpenGL support for specific boards

2018-11-30 Thread bret curtis
> > Many of those chipsets you list, as I understand, have a mesa driver > > for them that support opengl and gles. > > Such as freedreno which supports A4XX series. https://mesamatrix.net/ > > > > Keep in mind, only the proprietary drivers seem to not support opengl > > while the hardware is

Re: tracking OpenGL support for specific boards

2018-11-27 Thread bret curtis
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 3:58 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> What would help further would be for such information having references > >> to sources, and each information point be referencable (not only the > >> dataset as a whole). > > Isn't this already done for us here? > >

Re: tracking OpenGL support for specific boards

2018-11-27 Thread bret curtis
> > https://github.com/Re4son/kali-gemini-multistrap-config/raw/files/Arm64List.xls > > > > Any feedback, correction and addition that could benefit this discussion > > would be appreciated. > > Great that you collected that dataset, and put it public. > > What would help further would be for

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-26 Thread bret curtis
Hello Ian, On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:04 PM Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-11-26 at 12:07 +0100, bret curtis wrote: > > The hardware that supports GLES also supports OpenGL because GLES is > > a subset of OpenGL. > > I'm confused by this inference. If GL

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-26 Thread bret curtis
Hi! On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 11:40 AM Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > What applications does Debian have in its repo that only support GLES? > > Wrong question. Maybe it makes sense for you at the application level for > the application that are hooking into OpenGL directly. But we are speaking >

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-26 Thread bret curtis
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, bret curtis wrote: > > This is a very wrong assumption, the OpenGL on a RPi (all of them) is > > hardware accelerated via the VC4 mesa driver by Eric Anholt which is > > shipped, by default, on by Raspbian. It supports up to OpenGL 2.1 and > > if

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hey Scott, On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:01 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 08:36:11 PM bret curtis wrote: > > We have a Rasberry Pi working as a desktop here at my house. It's quite > usable as long as you only try to do a few things at a time, but it

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of February 2015. > > All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the VC4 mesa driver > > enabled! > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from Desktop OpenGL to GLES was a > > huge mistake and should be reversed as soon

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hello Lisandro! > Yes, that's a drawback we are not hiding. Applications needing Desktop OpenGL > would be left out. But... > Sorry, but this is just not acceptable. There has to be another way. > > > If you say that arm64 has to be GLESv2 as well, then that is yet another > > arch that OpenMW

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 boards. > > Yes, > > the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open GL stuff by CPU is > > precisely not the fastest thing around. > > "I have a Raspberry Pi (or similar mobile class system that > has migrated / is